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Fred Broca 08-14-2013 03:13 PM

Conspiracy Theories That You Actually Believe
Unlike most black people, I don't think the government or a of cabal evil white and Jewish guys meet quarterly under the carousal in Central Park to hatch these malevolent plans for world domination and to keep minorities, (especially black people oppressed. However there are certain conspiracy theories I do give credence to.

The Kennedy Assasination

Even though I've never read it, I don't believe the Warren Commission's report on the Kennedy assassination. I have a VERY HARD TIME believing that Lee Harvey Oswald simply decided on day to take a rifle to the sixth floor of the school book depository building, and spill Jack's brain all over that cute lil pink suit Jackie wearing that November afternoon.

I believe the Kennedy assassination was a mob hit ordered by Sam Giancana with logistical support provided by J. Edgar Hoover and rogue elements with in the F.B.I. and possibly the Secret Service.

I have no way of quantifying this, but my theory is this. The 1960 presidential election was a very close race decided by only 112,827 votes, of the 68,832,482 that were cast. In Illinois, Kennedy's margin of victory was only 8,858 votes. If you go to,_1960 look at the break down of the voting by county, Nixon won every damn every county in Illinois, the important exception is Cook County. The same happens in New York, but Jack's margin of victory in New York is a little bit bigger.

It's alleged that Papa Joe was connected and he was involved in bootlegging whiskey during Prohibition. I believe (and this is purely conjecture on my part,) that Papa Joe may have called in "a favor," to some "friends of his," in the Chi and NYC. Also, Peter Lawford was married to Patricia Kennedy (and we all know that Peter Lawford was in the Rat Pack,) So probably in the days and weeks, and Election Day 1960, Papa Joe and Sinatra were using those mob ties with the unions and Cook County Board of elections to run some shenanigans.

Once in office, Jack appoints his little brother Bobby AG, and Bobby is with the shit and starts going after the Mob. The wiseguys are probably like, "What the fuck? We get this mick bastard's kid elected president and his other kid is hitting us with indictments and having testifying at Congressional hearings. AWWW HELL NAW!" Add in Hoover's dislike for the Kennedys and the shit goes down. Mind you, Jack Ruby, (the dude who popped Lee Harvey Oswald,) had ties to the Chicago syndicate. He supposedly bodies Lee Harvey Oswald to spare Jackie a trial and to show that "Jews had guts," but Ruby later dies of cancer in the Feds. If you do your research, a lot of people connected to the Kennedy assassination died under "mysterious," circumstances.

Then there's hit on Bobby in '68 which I think was tied into his brother's murder. Fuck Sirhan Sirhan's excuse about Bobby's support of Israel, that was an orchestrated hit to keep Bobby from becoming president so that he wouldn't re-open a new investigation into his and probably Dr. King's assassination. Speaking of which, I also believe that government was involved in Dr. King's and Malcolm X's murder too.

The Ewokhunter 08-14-2013 03:27 PM

Kevin Costner is the one who shot him. Clearly he knew about the grassy knoll as he was there. He's a sly one.

MMorelock66 08-14-2013 03:37 PM

Didn't anybody watch The Watchmen? It was the Comedian!

The Ewokhunter 08-14-2013 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by MMorelock66 (Post 209502)
Didn't anybody watch The Watchmen? It was the Comedian!

That's a joke. one.big.fuckin.joke

Meddatron 08-14-2013 04:03 PM

I believe our government as well as other governments have information/proof of alien existence. I believe the proof is on the moon as well. The fact that the moon has reverberated both times we crashed something into it is a red flag that something isn't right. Only hollow things reverberate and the moon did it for well over an hour the first time and twice as long the second. It's crust has titanium in it as well as Iron that does not rust. Heavier elements are on the outside. That is different from any other object in our solar system. The moon has moonquakes that science cannot figure out why. The rocks are magnetic yet it has no magnetism itself. All very odd to me.

The Ewokhunter 08-14-2013 04:06 PM

add to the fact that to this day where our technology is far superior to that of the 60s, we haven't been back. We didn't explore it long enough to know everything about it.

If sending humans is a risk, why not a rover? shouldn't take long to get there and we could actually retrieve it.

of course this all leads to the conspiracy of whether or not we actually landed on there.

Giga Bread 08-14-2013 04:22 PM

I think you're on the right track about the mafia putting a hit on the president. I just can't pin it on San Giacana when everyone of the NY families were screwed over by JFK. I also don't think they needed logistics from the FBI. Like with 9-11, I think some savvy person capitalized on it. This time by purposefully leaving the door open to put pressure on the Soviets.

Other than that, the only real conspiracy I believe is that the government loves conspiracy theories because it makes them appear a lot more scarier and powerful. It probably has caused a few countries and terrorist cells to think twice before executing an act against us.

The Ewokhunter 08-14-2013 04:26 PM

outside of the mafia, there's the whole govt thing of secret society that JFK bought up prior to being shot.

Meddatron 08-14-2013 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Ewokhunter92 (Post 209508)
add to the fact that to this day where our technology is far superior to that of the 60s, we haven't been back. We didn't explore it long enough to know everything about it.

If sending humans is a risk, why not a rover? shouldn't take long to get there and we could actually retrieve it.

of course this all leads to the conspiracy of whether or not we actually landed on there.

That and each and every photo of the moon has been altered. They flip the photos before releasing, They always release them only in black and white, they make false horizons. All of which has no logic behind it. If they didn't black everything out we would see stars behind it when they photo it from space, but guess what, no stars are ever present. If the moon was truly colorless, it would still be black and white. Why a different camera for the moon than anywhere else? Why such extremes to doctor pictures?
On two early occasions the moon has had reddish glow emit from it and were caught by a soviet astronomer and the Lowell Observatory. Now they see it every year. It happens each and every time the moon moves slightly closer to the Earth. They are identical each and every time and can be predicted. If the moon is " geologically dead" this is an impossibility.
The moon's orbit is almost a perfect circle, The moon’s center of mass is about 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center, which should cause wobbling, but the moon’s bulge is on the far side of the moon, away from the Earth. No wobble occurs. The Earth's bulge is towards the moon.
There is a 12 mile bridge that goes across a crater on the moon that was found in 1953 and verified by other astronomers.
There are 3 Obelisk looking objects that perfectly match the pyramids of Giza and mayan pyramids in spacing. (also observed on Mars) where the Sphinx would be is a 5 mile high rock.
All of those observations when you go to Nasa's website to see on the Lunar Survey map are blurred out. Every single thing on the moon that has questions about it is blurred. Why? From 1940 to 1957 Nasa reported seeing over 570 light flashes on the moon.
It is exactly the right size to produce a total eclipse. Its size ratio to the distance of the sun make them equal sizes as seen from Earth. perfectly equal!

I'm just gonna say it. The moon is the alien craft. Man's early gods reside there. A Death Star!

Meddatron 08-14-2013 05:06 PM

also, when they say that the reason they have not sent rovers is that there is nothing of importance, I say bullshit. The titanium on the moon is identical to the titanium we use in our military Subs. There is also a Uranium and Neptonium elements that cannot be found on Earth. You tell me the military doesn't want that Uranium.

The moon rocks were dated older than the Earth? The dirt under them was dated as even older. Earth is 4.6 billion years old, the moon is 5.3. How did it come first? If it was first and positioned where it is than the earth would not been able to form. It would have gotten bigger and became the planet.

The Ewokhunter 08-14-2013 05:23 PM

if those metals are there, then mayhaps we HAVE been going back. Not sure how, but maybe we are working up there somehow and we don't want the rest of the world to know.

Meddatron 08-14-2013 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Ewokhunter92 (Post 209526)
if those metals are there, then mayhaps we HAVE been going back. Not sure how, but maybe we are working up there somehow and we don't want the rest of the world to know.

I could see that as possible. Especially since the first reverberations lasted an hour when we first went there. Than last year's lasted for 3 hours. That makes one believe it is more hollow today than in the 1969. On march 17th this year a flash of light (explosion from a small rock Nasa says) was so bright you could see the flash with your naked eye.
could been a mining explosion. Also note, in that article, Nasa once again admits to filming in black and white, than colorizing.

The Ewokhunter 08-14-2013 05:34 PM

Another thing to think about, we cut back funding to NASA and have to hitchhike rides from Russia to the station. What if that was a public coverup to the fact they are using Russia to launch us up there for mining purposes? Heck, if we can dock a space shuttle up there, who's to say we don't have a craft designed to go to and from the station to do work?

Meddatron 08-14-2013 05:38 PM

add to that, every country that can is racing to get there again. Japan has a huge mission planned. On pace to be there in 2020 and have a base set up by 2030. China plans/planned on going this year, 2015, and 2017. Russia 2014 and 2015. For more than 30 years no nation cared, now all of a sudden, these new objects on the moon get leaked and every country wants to go. Sounds to me they don't believe they are as natural as Nasa states they are.

We have an extremely quiet space race happening right now.

Once out of Earth's gravity, a lawnmower engine would get us to the moon. A ship built in space would easily do it and fast.

Giga Bread 08-14-2013 06:39 PM

It could be that the US just doesn't want to spark a militarized space race that is against several international treaties

Meddatron 08-14-2013 07:13 PM

The Outer Space Treaty does not ban mining for any purpose, no sending WMD's into space, testing/using military weapons (WMD's), No orbiting WMD's, no conducting military exercises, can't build military bases, no one can lay claim to anything, but mining for metals for any use on Earth for any reason is not covered. As long as said military weapon/vehicle does not go into space or built in space, they can do it.

The Ewokhunter 08-14-2013 07:24 PM

Outer space treaty. HA sounds like the other countries were too afraid of our once scientific superiority.

Meddatron 08-14-2013 07:28 PM

Haha right, but it is a true treaty. Its like SHIELD, It had a really long crappy name (Declaration of Legal Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space) that they just reduced to sound cool.

Giga Bread 08-14-2013 08:48 PM

The treaty was more connected to the nuclear arms race but it still exists.

Whenever there's a new resource on a piece of unclaimed property, everyone tries to claim it and always leads to massive conflict

Mandingo Rex 08-14-2013 11:18 PM

What in the tin-foil-hatted fuck did I just stumble into?

G.I.*EDDIE 08-14-2013 11:32 PM

Is Bigfoot a conspiracy theory?...either, that thing is real!...just a hard bugger to find

NSA 08-14-2013 11:33 PM


G.I.*EDDIE 08-14-2013 11:41 PM

Watch ya homo!...I'm standing behind you!

Meddatron 08-15-2013 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by G.I.*EDDIE (Post 209646)
Is Bigfoot a conspiracy theory?...either, that thing is real!...just a hard bugger to find

I'm not sure I believe he exists, but wouldn't be surprised if he did. Giant Squids were once a myth. Not any more. That huge ass ocean shark (megladon) was said to be extinct, but recently they found a skeleton piece in a shallow inlet that is not very old at all. 10,000 years I think they said. Previous fossils were over a million years old. If it has lasted 990,000 years longer than previous thought, what's another ten thousand years with a stable climate and no predators. It very well could still be in deep ass water like the Giant Squid.

Giga Bread 08-15-2013 09:27 AM

Difference between squid and Bigfoot is that we don't inhabit 90% of the oceans.

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