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Unread 06-17-2014, 05:50 AM   #1
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US-made Stinger missiles have likely fallen into ISIS hands, officials say | Fox News

Wanna bet these are the ones we didn't sell to the Syrian rebels?
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Unread 06-17-2014, 06:41 AM   #2
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*** trying to figure out why we would even consider leaving stingers in Iraq in the first place.

Stupidity is a plague these days...
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And our government really didn't see this happening once the insurgents started coming back in? Seriously?
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There is an ,,,,,,,
joke in here somewhere......

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And our government really didn't see this happening once the insurgents started coming back in? Seriously?


Wut?
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So when will all the Jew Haters start begging Israel to protect Palestinians from ISIS because they're not happy Hamas wants their own Islamic State?


Who will the French Muslim insurgents throw rocks and set fire to when ISIS starts cutting Palestinian heads off?
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Huh??
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Yup, the translation states they are not happy with Palestinians wanting their own state and they should want to be part of the Islamic State. ISIS is killing as many or more Muslims as they are Christians.
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Yep. Hezbollah (Shiite) told Hamas (Sunni) that they are on their own. The Muslim civil war is more important than killing the Jews for now.
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So "Jew haters" = Muslims. I've just been called "Jew hater" myself because I don't agree with Israel's policies that are creating Warsawlike ghettos.
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And our government really didn't see this happening once the insurgents started coming back in? Seriously?
You're talking about the same administration that sold over two thousand rifles to the Mexican drug cartels.

On purpose.
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So "Jew haters" = Muslims. I've just been called "Jew hater" myself because I don't agree with Israel's policies that are creating Warsawlike ghettos.
Certainly not by me. I'm intelligent enough to recognize fringe radical groups in all religions. Religion = Death
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So "Jew haters" = Muslims. I've just been called "Jew hater" myself because I don't agree with Israel's policies that are creating Warsawlike ghettos.
Maybe if the non-Jew-hating Muslims would get their fucking supposed "vocal minority" (be they Palestinian or any other nationality/sect) under control perhaps Gaza and the West Bank wouldn't have to be ghettos. It seems to me there are too many of them that are all too willing to "insha'allah" away any responsibility to do anything about the situation.

I won't pretend that the Israelis are lily-white, but let's not fool ourselves as to which side would make die Endlösung look like a chat room slap fight if given the opportunity.
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Israel is going through the same thing. The colonization and shitting on previous treaties is being pushed by a minority that has a majority government power, because of how multi-party governments split up power. There are many on the ground, who disagree on policy, on both sides,and could be tolerant to the other side, but unfortunately, they depend on the radicals to look out for their interests. The radicals are willing to push for an end game and fight for interests outside of their region. That's both the Israelis and Hamas.
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Also, if they can smuggle rockets through the tunnels, they could just as easily smuggle food and medical supplies but pulling people out of starvation wouldn't push the Hamas agenda. From a tactical standpoint, Israel is creating an environment of Hamas dependence which will push for more Hamas aggression.
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Hopefully with Egypt and Iran turning their backs on Hamas Israel will be able to clean them out once and for all allowing the moderates to build something resembling a modern society.
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Iran is 100% behind this.
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Iran is 100% behind this.
Source? sounds kind of, conspiracy nuttish.
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Source? sounds kind of, conspiracy nuttish.
Not at all. The Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps- Quds Force (IRGC-QF) has been supporting Hamas/PLO/various other groups in the West Bank/Gaza strip for years now. It's not exactly a secret that Iran hates Israel and will support any group that seeks to cause them problems. The IRGC-QF is their primary means to do this, either through direct action or through proxies.
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Wait. It's plausible for Iran to be indirectly supporting Hamas and manipulating them into attacking Israel to weaken them but it's not plausible for the CIA to be indirectly supporting Ukraine rebels and manipulating them into attacking pro Russian government to weaken them?

Hmm, that is amazing how conspiracies can work on way but not the other.
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Well. One is fact. The other is speculation.
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I, for one, would like to know where the fact comes from. I mean, it's supposed to be indirectly, which means, they don't admit it.

I just find it funny how everyone in the world KNOWS the CIA works to manipulate countries yet it's brushed off as foil hat wearing. But some ass clown in a sheet says they are supporting Hamas in toppling Israel, it's considered gospel.
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I, for one, would like to know where the fact comes from. I mean, it's supposed to be indirectly, which means, they don't admit it.

I just find it funny how everyone in the world KNOWS the CIA works to manipulate countries yet it's brushed off as foil hat wearing. But some ass clown in a sheet says they are supporting Hamas in toppling Israel, it's considered gospel.
Controversies surrounding Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's two seconds of googling. Read the summary on wiki, and then go to the links at the bottom, from such credible sources as Newsweek, Jane's Guide, The Guardian, and the Times.

As for the second comment- everyone does not KNOW the CIA does what you're speculating. Were they involved in some operations in the past? Certainly. But, unless you've got some secret clearance you're not telling us about, any claims of knowledge of current US Intelligence activity is speculation, at best.

I don't say this to be mean or confrontational, but to point out the difference in the arguments. The two scenarios are really apples and oranges to begin with.
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Wiki? You cited wiki as your source and yet im the conspiracy nutjob HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Wiki? You cited wiki as your source and yet im the conspiracy nutjob HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I said two seconds worth of googling. You obviously didn't read the caveat about "look at the sources of the article".

So with that- believe what you want. No skin off my back. Just don't complain when people call you the

Also, noted that you didn't address ANY of my other comments, and just stuck with the ad-hominem. So, whatever.
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