Epstein - DEAD OR ALIVE

[NSA]

Just a catch-all thread since this blurs the line between Conspiracy, In the News, Trump, and whatever else.

Latest?

 

[NSA]

Also.. seriously wondering if Epstein was/is a CIA mole/plant/witness and they extracted him and faked his death.

 

[ThunderDan19]

Like I said in the other thread, until I see an HD pic/video of the body with obvious cause of death, I'm not 100% convinced he wasn't Nick Fury'ed. There has been way too much happening with all kinds of powerful people and agencies to believe he couldn't have been extracted (by either side).

 

[nacho]

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for either side, but the simplest explanation is most often the truth, i.e. the guy was guilty as f#$% and offed himself to keep from facing the music.

I still have cautious optimism that the evidence in the case will still be able to take down some high-profile human garbage.

 

[NSA]

So far what I read:

His cell mate was transferred out hours earlier for "unknown reasons"
The guards are supposed to check on him every 30 minutes, but in this instance at least 3 hours went by without a check
No video...

 

[pcsguy88]

You forgot the bit about the autopsy being inconclusive, awaiting further evidence. Really? I’d say hanging is pretty conclusive if true.

The prison is said to be down 38 guards at the moment with many pulling up to triple shifts and them making clerks and office personnel do guard duty, so that is a legit issue, but the highest profile prisoner in the country who just came off of suicide watch the week before isn’t monitored at all?

The inmate who was suppose to be brought in to stay with him was diverted without explanation. Lot’s of non-explanations going around!

 

[G.I.*EDDIE]

The prison has NEVER had a suicide according to Rageaholic (good vid BTW if you have 7 mins).

Also...

I think he was killed/faked. Far far too many coincidences. Though like I said before, I also wouldn't be surprised if he killed himself to protect the others, it's just, why would they go so far out of their way to obscure that? It makes far more sense that they were obscuring a murderer.

This meme sums up pretty well how I feel about it.

 

[pcsguy88]

Epstein’s legal team sent in Baden as an observer and the coroner said it was normal to have the defense send in a specialist to monitor how things are done. He also use to be the coroner there in NY.

 

[Videoviper]

They are going after the girlfriend/ madom next

 

[pcsguy88]

Supports that he was an asset.

 

[G.I.*EDDIE]

He was... Mossad. It's israel's version of CIA. That's not a secret.

 

[NSA]

I wonder if we'll ever get actual answers.

 

[pcsguy88]

Answers from whom? I seriously doubt anyone in the know will come out and talk now that they’ve shown they can take out someone isolated in a federal prison.

 

[ThunderDan19]

As long as the good guys got the evidence he had on the guilty, I don't care how he went out.

 

[nacho]

As long as the good guys got the evidence he had on the guilty, I don't care how he went out.

Well that's the kicker, right? Who the f#$% are the "good guys" anymore? Who would you trust to both safeguard that information from "disappearing" and be able to do anything with it that won't get squashed by the power people? The FBI? The DoJ? I'm genuinely at a loss.

 

[pcsguy88]

Starting to feel like everyone in the government feels it’s better to just make it all go away. Too big to fail/prosecute. Just sweep up some employees of his that helped with trafficking the girls and then bury the rest. I will fall out of my rocker if they actual use his spy cam footage to take down his guests.

 

[pcsguy88]

Well that's the kicker, right? Who the f#$% are the "good guys" anymore? Who would you trust to both safeguard that information from "disappearing" and be able to do anything with it that won't get squashed by the power people? The FBI? The DoJ? I'm genuinely at a loss.

My thoughts exactly. Sounds like it would be an international cloak and dagger shooting gallery between the most powerful families around the world if this investigation moves forward.

 

[pcsguy88]

Also, how hard must it be to hang yourself from a bunk bed? Do you tie your legs up first and then roll off the top bunk to make sure your body doesn’t involuntarily stand up? I imagine it’s like drowning where your body will not allow you to do such a thing voluntarily.

 

[ThunderDan19]

My thoughts exactly. Sounds like it would be an international cloak and dagger shooting gallery between the most powerful families around the world if this investigation moves forward.

If only... Like ghetto gangs, any time they can self reduce the number of evil pricks walking the earth, I’m ok with it.

 

[pcsguy88]

If only... Like ghetto gangs, any time they can self reduce the number of evil pricks walking the earth, I’m ok with it.

I meant the families all have a reason to take out hits on anybody connected to investigating the case or being a witness, but that could certainly lead to scuffles amongst themselves. Just too many families and governments with the motive and means to take out good ole Jeffrey to ever know who actually did it.

 

[ThunderDan19]

Ah, but that’ll only buy them a little time before the g-men (assuming guys like that still exist) form a task force to get to the source of all the killings (and of course prosecute the original crimes). I believe Trump is motivated enough to take them down. Question is whether the forces below him are.

 

[NSA]

I guess we'll see.. but I say it's 50/50 that the Feds raiding his island are getting intel, or burning intel.

 

[ThunderDan19]

Yeah, there are reports that JE was demolishing stuff there in the past few months as well. So it'll remain to see who got what evidence on whom.

 

[NSA]

Saw this.. thought it was an interesting breakdown of some of the players in this:

Jeff Epstein:

• Acosta was told hands off of Jeff Epstein because he "belonged to intelligence". So, which alphabet agency did he belong to, or was he not one of ours?
• Epstein's safe contained a falsified Saudi passport and tons of precious stones that could be used to obtain money in an emergency.
• No broker on Wall Street can recall ever having traded with Epstein. Where did he get his money? Who were his clients? Did his wealth come from money laundering, an intelligence slush fund, or what?
• Jeff Epstein's actual flight logs contained a reference to a Bell 206L-3 LongRanger helicopter with the tail number N474AW. No such helicopter exists in any N-Number lookup.
• One of the people guarding Epstein's cell the night he died wasn't even a correctional officer. Also, the cameras mysteriously went out.

Marc Dutroux:

• The entire case was marred by incidences of obstruction of justice. Witnesses were targeted and killed to keep them quiet.
• Prosecutors were suicided. So many people died under mysterious circumstances, the accused had to be transported to and from the courtroom in heavily armored vans.
• Marc Dutroux claimed he was part of a pedophile ring.
• The Dutroux dossiers show that he received payments in foreign currency for his services.
• The X-Dossiers detail the horrific abuses the victims suffered, in their own words. They fingered many high-level figures in the Belgian government. They took children to sex parties with the country's elite and raped them. They stripped them to their underwear and sent them off into the woods and pursued them with hunting dogs like game animals. The price of failure to evade their pursuers was being stripped naked, forced face-down in the dirt and raped, and then possibly snuffed afterwards.
• Adnan Khashoggi's name appears in these dossiers, and he was a very wealthy Saudi and known in Elite circles as a pimp. He also had offices in Brussels. Yes, he was the uncle of Jamal Khashoggi.

Lawrence King:

• Was accused of embezzling funds and raping children in sex parties.
• His accusers were charged with perjury and sentenced to prison.

DynCorp:

• PMCs frequently hired by the US Government to do their dirty work.
• An aircraft mechanic in Texas named Ben Johnston accused them of being child rapists and human traffickers.
• Kathryn Bolkovac, a UN Peacekeeper, accused them of human trafficking in Bosnia. This was later fictionalized in the movie The Whistleblower.
• DynCorp employees were known to solicit dancing boys in Afghanistan.
• Operated a Rockwell OV-10 Bronco aircraft loaned from the State Department that crashed under mysterious circumstances. This aircraft shared a tail number with the aforementioned helicopter owned by Jeff Epstein: N474AW.

James Alefantis:

• Attended Rothschild gatherings. Looks related to them. Was outed as one on /pol/. What is a Rothschild doing running a pizza parlor?
• Why does he have connections to pig farms upstate? Hint: it's because you need a way to dispose of the bodies, just like Brick Top described in Snatch.
• Named by GQ as one of the top 50 most influential people in DC.
• Had weird fucking shit on his Instagram.
• Comet Ping-Pong was described as an all-ages venue, but hosted bands like Heavy Breathing and Sex Stains with pedophilia-themed lyrics and imagery.
• Former employees made disturbing allegations about CPP. One also claimed JA drugged and sexually assaulted him.
• Owns a very strange building overlooking a children's playground. This building has a moving "airlock" consisting of a wheeled platform that isolates its upper level and probably violates fire code. The first floor is almost windowless except for a narrow slit of a window with security bars, and the stairs look like they would be difficult or even impossible for a child to climb.

John Podesta:

• His emails make reference to Comet Ping-Pong.
• He had had cryptic emails with weird codewords in them. Playing dominos on cheese or on pasta? What does that mean?
• He likes to make regular pilgrimages to where the Donner Party ate each other. He also has bizarre, profane art hanging around his home.
• He was accused in 2011 by Andrew Breitbart of running (or providing cover for) a sex slave ring. Before he died of a heart attack under mysterious circumstances, Andrew Breitbart was distressed and paranoid and had a breakdown on camera.
• He is friends with convicted pedophile Dennis Hastert.

Marina Abramovic:

• Knows the Podestas personally, along with numerous important figures in Hollywood and in DC.
• Very pretentious performance artist with gruesome blood-themed "art" like Hermann Nitsch.
• Has a performance art piece known as "Spirit Cooking", which basically consists of painting words in blood on four interior walls of a structure. John Podesta was so infatuated with this piece, he had a basement projector system built to replicate it.
• Did a documentary on João de Deus.

João Teixeira de Faria (a.k.a. João de Deus or John of God):

• Faith healer who claims to have supernatural "psychic surgery" powers that are nothing more than parlor tricks.
• Was accused by Sabrina Bittencourt of sex trafficking and running baby farms for the Elite. She later died under mysterious circumstances. He is a monumentally sick fuck.
• Bill Clinton, Luiz Inacio da Silva, and others were his clients, ostensibly for the faith healing services.

Laura Silsby:

• A "Christian Missionary" who tried smuggling children out of Haiti but was apprehended.
• Hillary Clinton got her out of jail and back in the States.
• She now works for AlertSense, a company that provides tech for the Amber Alert system and FEMA.

Max Maccoby:

• Attorney linked to the above individuals, along with the organization Friends of the Orphans. Involved in the child trafficking scheme.

 

[NSA]

Ruh roh

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/fdny-investigating-jeffrey-epstein-4chan-post

 

[nacho]

IDK, that just seems like one more thing everyone will deny and that we'll never know the truth about.

 

[pcsguy88]

Even if every single island video was leaked, they’d immediately provide expert evidence of how it was a deepfake.

 

[G.I.*EDDIE]

Epstein ‘Bedsheet’ Hanging Explanation Contradicted by Former Inmate

“You have sheets, but they’re paper level, not strong enough. He was 200 pounds — it would never happen,” said the former inmate.

The source also said that suicide was an “impossibility” and couldn’t have been accomplished via a bed.

“Could he have done it from the bed? No sir. There’s a steel frame, but you can’t move it. There’s no light fixture. There’s no bars,” he said.

 

[NSA]

???

 

[NSA]

HUGE read from reddit on some of the released pages

Spoiler

 

[G.I.*EDDIE]

Am I doing it wrong? Spoiler reveals...nothing.

 

[NSA]

It's embedding it into the forums.. let me try the link..

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/cq93tu/i_am_combing_through_all_of_the_epstein_files/

 

[pcsguy88]

???

That’s a bit creepy to see stacks of child mattresses in a building far away from the main buildings. Seeing how far and fast that Mavic Pro drone (shadow gave it away) flew makes me wish I had gone with it instead of the Mavic Air.

 

[nacho]

That’s a bit creepy to see stacks of child mattresses in a building far away from the main buildings.

It's more than a little creepy. WTF. Especially for a building that was supposedly a "music hall".

 

[NSA]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...9ac934-bdd9-11e9-b873-63ace636af08_story.html

🤐🤐🤐

 

[NSA]

 

[ThunderDan19]

I thought that had to be sanctioned footage, right up until they started covering the windows. I'm surprised they didn't bring it down with a net for something.

 

[NSA]

pcsguy88 is our resident drone person.. how far out was the drone filming this? Obviously they saw it to start covering it up, but it had to be far enough away to not be seen right away.

 

[Videoviper]

Looks like it was probably operated from a nearby boat, lord knows how many paparazzi are trying to get what ever pictures they can.

 

[NSA]

Jeffrey Epstein’s Bodyguard on His Former Boss’s Lifestyle, Cruelty, and Suicide