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He is now one of 113 candidates and politicians who have been murdered in Mexico just since last September, when the election cycle started. Fifty relatives have also been killed and 132 politicians, mostly at the local level, have been threatened.
I can't believe that anyone runs for office there. It's like a form of suicide.

So yeah, Trump was spot on..."animals".

- Legal/illegal Mexicans overwhelmingly vote democrat
- Dems pander to illegals/DACA/sanctuary cities/MS-13
- leftist MSM defends all them dem voters from mean ole Trump

But sure, it's all about compassion. :whatever:
 

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Interesting..

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/elecciones-2018/amlo-urge-epn-detener-actos-racistas-e-inhumanas-de-eu-migrantes

Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) called for mass immigration to the United States during a speech Tuesday declaring it a “human right” for all North Americans.

“And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.”

He then declared it as “a human right we will defend,”
 

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It was a package deal. Nothing like having a stubborn deaf bulldog that never met an authority figure before. I had to drop the hammer pretty hard the first few weeks, but now he doesn’t question my commands and decided outside is the right place for low level bombing runs.
 

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Outdoor dogs are fine. I don't currently have one, but I'm not morally opposed to the idea. Our last one disappeared, never to return. Never did figure out if she was stolen, killed, or just ran away.

But indoor dogs... are the devil. They chew up everything, shit everywhere, and require constant attention/action. I had a buddy in college who married a girl with two big dogs, and he would complain that she liked the dogs more than him. They would take up the whole bed, and he wasn't allowed to kick them out. That marriage lasted about 15 months. Vile creatures.
 

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I hate dogs so, so much. My wife has 2 dogs and I can't wait until they die. They do nothing good. Leave fur everywhere, eat food off the counter and out of the trash, and chase the cats around. Ugh.
My parents have Labradoodles and they are pretty cool since the do not shed or stink, but yeah, can’t stand pointy dog hair everywhere. I waited for the 2 special needs shitters to pass before I’d share a home and there is a baby gate at the bottom of the stairs to keep the bedrooms, den and cat safe.
 

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Great article.

Don’t Fool Yourself – The Left is Still Winning
http://nationalright.us/109/

The refusal to act leads to a victory for the Left by default. While the current situation of the Right controlling government presents the appearance that the Left is in greater peril, even eight years of Trump will do little more to stop the march leftward of America than eight years of Eisenhower did in slowing welfare or Reagan in stopping cultural Marxism. The only difference is should the Trump years prove a respite instead of a revolution, our future will be one where our destines are not our own to decide.

If we wait until then to act, we will be forced to fight a battle against a hostile government, a socialist or communist majority, and with innumerable technological and surveillance challenges. Furthermore, we will have consigned yet another generation to the very education system that loves to teach these Marxist ideals, even more radicalized than the street violence we see from groups like antifa today. Our odds in such a fight would be considerably worse than they are today where we still have parity numerically and the considerable advantage, at least temporarily, of a government not diametrically opposed to the people and their liberties.
 
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I mean.. besides the fact that he skirts around saying he wants to cull non-white people while still implying it.

It's typical right-wing/racist-leaning fanwank. Somehow, in order to "save" the Good United States.. the United States needs to go after other groups and races and get rid of them because they're not good in the long term. But wouldn't doing that negate the good of the United States in the first place?

Our effort is to unite the right behind the four core principles of responsibility, liberty, morality, and identity. We fight for quality over quantity, for achievement over equality, and for creation versus stagnation.
Identity? Hmmm. National Right seems like a funky name too. I am reading it as "Nation Alright!" which sounds a lot nicer.

At the same time, I'm not saying they're 100% wrong, but it's a pretty steep shift in direction to go that way, and there isn't really any turning back. The goal is essentially to 're-take' America, like we did over the Indians back in the day. At this point that's 2nd Civil War kind of talk.

Ultimately I suppose it'll be about people accepting their culture is being absorbed/replaced/consumed/etc and that's okay, or they'll stand up and fight for it.
 

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The goal is essentially to 're-take' America, like we did over the Indians back in the day. At this point that's 2nd Civil War kind of talk.
I mean, he did start the article with...

Within the next month, I will be releasing my second book: The Coming Civil War.
Regardless, we're screwed. What needs to happen to change what's coming will never happen.
 

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I think there is a middle ground there. I'm not opposed to cultures assimilating, cultures shifting, and all that melting pot stuff. That's been going on for hundreds of years. I have zero problem with that.

What isn't cool is the shifts towards socialist government and a pervasive attitude that morals and family values are antiquated choices and that voicing any pro-morals/values opinions are judgments that should be shouted down, shamed, and outlawed. It's bizarro world in that regard.

We've always been a multi-cultural society, but those newcomers traditionally share similar values and assimilate to the norms, albeit with their own flair from their previous origins. Now, assimilation is a bad word, expecting people to adapt to our culture is an evil notion, and expecting people to share western/democratic (lower case) values is the devil. It's tough to wrap my head around these seemingly major shifts... even if I think they're only being pushed by a small but vocal minority.

No doubt the writer of the article is on the extreme fringe, and those people always creep me out (on both sides). But while I don't think we're headed for CW 2, Socialist Boogaloo, I do think that the divide will get wider until some kind of tipping point. Us on the right fear the boogeyman where the left gets 51% and we're screwed. But unlike Venezuela, I think we still have a lot of moderates and independents on both sides that will shift if things get too extreme either way. I'm thinking about people who do think gays should be able to marry and that healthcare should be universal... but they still have jobs and don't want to pay 60% taxes to support a growing poverty class. Those people, even the ones in Cali and NY, will all shift right if things start getting too socialist.
 

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I also think in reality, due to our 50-state system, you'll see changes in some states before others, and things will adjust based on that. We already have some disparity between the coasts and the heartland, but things would still need to get a lot worse/different for it to get to the point of Civil War. California/Arizona etc will be white minority states long before a Montana or Idaho or whatever. If suddenly white people are being lynched and drug through the street in California.. it wouldn't really stand with the rest of the states that aren't there yet.

I wonder if a "white only" nation will spring up somewhere from rich people who don't want to integrate?
 

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There would need to be huge pendulum swing for there to be anything "white only." I highly disagree with anyone lumping huge swaths of people together by race alone. While genetic background is an general indicator in IQ and potential for aggression, that doesn't mean that the way someone is raised cannot overcome it. In the end, we all have free will and choose the path we take. Quite frankly, I see the culture someone has chosen to embrace (often has been indoctrinated into by family, friends or "education") as much more determinate for their behavior, and thus social and economic outcome, than race.
 

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So let me ask you guys a question. Do you believe that there will eventually be a demographic shift to majority non-white, and if so, do you think that that new majority demographic will vote right in amounts that add up to more than basically just exceptions?

Are you concerned about being the minority to a new majority that has been brainwashed into believing that we have always been their oppressors?
 

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Do I think it will happen? Probably. Not all at once though.

Places like South Africa were always white-minority, they just had all the power. So when the blacks got control back, they abused the whites in revenge. In the USA white people have pretty much always been at the top both numerically and power-wise. Was this power abused? Sometimes, absolutely. But the situation isn't 1:1 at all.

You also have to take into account that Blacks / Hispanics / Asians don't tend to like each other very much either. Sometimes, sure, it's easy to gang up on whitey as everyone hates whitey.. but you look at gang violence/etc and it's usually them fighting each other. I really don't think "non-white" is going to be a homogeneous voting block like you're afraid of. Will it lean left? Most likely, but that could change if more of them get bigger pieces of the American Pie and then want to hold on to it. It's not a lie that there are a LOT of legal Hispanic immigrants who are against illegal immigration.

Also, the fact that it will take some time to happen means there will be less and less people around who even existed under a majority white rule. People who grew up with "1 black kid" in town will all be dead. You'll be more likely to find towns in the southwest with "1 white kid" in town.

The irrational fear that colored Stormtroopers are just around the corner waiting to haul poor whitey off to a concentration camp is just that, irrational. "COULD" it happen? I suppose anything is possible, but it's (A) a long ways off and (B) a very very very small chance in the US, even less depending on the state you live in. It *IS* a good tactic for making people afraid and to try and rile people up for other, nefarious reasons (racism, bigotry, etc).
 

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No doubt we'll be in the minority in our lifetimes, but I agree that as more and more of these other groups get a piece of the pie, they're suddenly going to find themselves voting more conservative as well. Hard-working blacks and hispanics don't really have anything nice to say about black and hispanic free-loaders either. So I truly think economics will trump race in most circumstances.
 

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I also think the "America Experiment" is about breaking some of the culture binds that make so many other places a shithole. It's obviously no impervious, but the overriding goal is to have the freedom to make a better life and do well for yourself and your family. That shouldn't be based on skin color or creed or whatever.

I do think assimilation, to a degree, is important, but we also absorb parts of other culture and change and adapt. There needs to be a system to make it so we're okay with change and adding things to the US culture, but also preventing places from turning into entirely different nations/areas.

Either way, unless your ultimate aim is to preserve a white nation, I don't think it's super pressing. If your aim IS to preserve a white nation, you might want to look into starting your own somewhere.
 

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Yeah, you'd think that people coming here for a better life would want to assimilate, but there does seem to be an odd contingent who want to turn this place into exactly the shithole they fled from. Baffling.

Nothing wrong with hanging onto the quirky or innocuous parts of your former life, as we like funny traditions and new/interesting foods... but the people who don't have any intention of sharing our language or basic values are the real issue.
 

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With the economic numbers coming out this past year and the fact they continue to get stronger (break records), I believe a lot of minority members are red pilling. If they do vote the Dems in this year and again in 2020, then the mass layoffs fire back up as taxes and unemployment climb, I bet a solid chunk will realize Trump’s “what do you have to lose” was 100% correct. Hard working people who have crawled out of the meat grinder do not want to carry the freeloaders on their backs no matter their ethnicity.
 

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I can't tell if that seems low or high for legal and illegal. Years ago the number of 11 million illegals was bandied about in CA alone, so I guess it makes sense.. but how could they know an accurate count? If they can count them, they can deport them!