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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/suspicious-package-found-at-clintons-home-police-say

While mailing “bombs” to people you don’t like is an obvious douche move, I find it highly suspect that exactly none of them actually exploded and at least the one pictured doesn’t even appear to have a postal marking (making it unlikely it was ever in the mail system). And of course the timing of it... smells a little off... Kind of like the “Ricin” that was sent to Pres. Trump and the SecDef a few weeks back, very sophomoric.

It’ll be interesting to see what the bomb experts have to say about the devices and who gets picked up for it. Until then, it’s kind of hard for an intelligent person to take it seriously. (And right as I finished writing this, Eddie posts the above). Dude, :thumbsup:. There’s an early expert analysis. I can’t imagine even the MSM could stifle the real Secret Service and police experts who will reveal just how “dangerous” or not these were. Could this “blow up” in the Dems’ faces like Justice K and the “migrant mob” have?
 
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Believe it or not, CNN had a pretty good piece on it. I saw it in the waiting room at the dentist. They've intentionally designed phones to be addictive, so it shouldn't be a surprise to them that they are in fact addictive.
 

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Yeah, and kids being the most susceptible.. recipe for disaster.

The hard part is, I use my own upbringing as a measuring stick, and I was into all kinds of tech as a kid.. but tech these days is so much.. different.. and more manipulative.. TV back in the 80s wasn't tailored to sell you something personally. It was a shotgun approach where they tried to appeal to as many people as possible.. now they know who you are, what you want, what you don't want.. etc
 

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I read a study or watched a vid...something, that you are more likely to become addicted to something before the age of 25 when your brain isn't fully developed. Before then your brain develops around the addictive thing you are partaking in. If you wait until after then, you can probably partake without developing a problem. Late in life coke addicts disagree. 😁
 

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Whew, good thing I didn't start drinking until late... :p

But yeah, I have to keep an eye on my son particularly when it comes to video games. I'm also an Sega/PSX addict on that from way back. Every once in a while I have to be like, "Go play something that requires use of your imagination and more than just your fingers and thumbs!" At least all my kids love Legos.
 

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I truly REALLY want to believe that politicians, even Dems, are not evil or desperate enough to orchestrate mass tragedies for the sake of political gain. But the predictable nature of the events, seemingly exactly when they need a distraction from all the "winning" is hard to ignore.

There were no mass shootings or caravans of "refugees" during the confirmation hearings or hurricane earlier in the month, where the Dems clearly thought the optics were in their favor. But seemingly when they start to slip, when it becomes clear that the blue wave is likely going to limp to shore, we suddenly get fisher-price scare packages in the mail and an old fashioned church shooting.

If this truly isn't a random crazy person, I hope the masterminds get exposed, sooner rather than later.
 
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Eddie, I agree, but my head struggles to wrap around the concept of people, especially the number of people needed to pull this off without getting caught, are willing to kill many innocent people just for political gain. I can't imagine having so little disregard for human life or such a thirst for power. Then again, I have a soul.
 

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I can't grasp that NEED for power either, but I also can't grasp peoples desperation and willingness to do nearly anything for drugs...yet they do. Robbing family? :wtf:

I don't know if you've watched the Veritas videos, but there is no shortage of low level "resistance" SJWs/NPCs that will do anything for the movement. Even more scary is that they know they are fighting for communism. They're openly saying the word.

What the heck has happened to people that they can go to school and get so easily brainwashed? How do they not push back against that insanity?
 

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Here is my issue.. occam's razor..

Sure, I guess it is possible he was really a sleeper commie agent waiting for the most politically opportune moment to strike.. but that seems really unlikely. An "out and out" Racist attacking Jews isn't really something that is going to divide people further. If ANYONE condones what he did, they're on the wrong side. If ANYONE says "well, he did have some good points", they're on the wrong side. It doesn't matter if you're (R) or (D) or (I) or (LGBTQWKIGFGHAT@JKIA). If anything, I would say this would help the anti-gun agenda most (He had an AR-15, owned 21 guns or something), but that fight isn't in the limelight right now so there wouldn't be a point.

2nd: This article - https://www.yahoo.com/news/robert-bowers-anti-semite-anti-migrant-gun-fanatic-194143092.html

Sure, sure, maybe #FakeNews, but maybe not? At what point are things actually things and not all made up (if you don't like them)?

"HIAS likes to bring invaders in that kill our people. I can't sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw your optics, I'm going in," he wrote.
This sounds genuine to me as someone who disagreed with things, so vehemently, that he did what he did even though he knew it would hurt his "cause" (of being a shithead racist?).

Other posts on the network referred to the caravan of Central American migrants making its way to the US as "invaders," while he also accused Jews of being responsible for Muslim migration into the United States, writing: "Open you Eyes! It's the filthy EVIL jews Bringing the Filthy EVIL Muslims into the Country!!"
I mean.. this doesn't sound all that different from some of the things I've read here, and definitely rings true to things you read on Reddit and other social media. Why would the left or #DeepState need to fake this type of thing when it is literally happening every single day.

Also:

But while both migrants and Muslims have been frequent targets of Donald Trump, Bowers was no fan of the US president, whom he derisively dismissed as a "globalist" and not a "nationalist."

Using a slur for Jews, he said, "There is no #MAGA, as long as there is a k--- infestation." MAGA refers to Trump's campaign slogan, Make America Great Again.

In another post before the shooting, he said he had not voted for Trump.
That does not make a really good case for dividing us. He was not 'following Trumps orders!' or whatever.

Best case scenario I can think of for it being an #InsideJob would be if unknown people somehow 'convinced' this actual racist shitheel to do this, through social media means or otherwise. That still means he did it, and he's responsible.. and that these types of people are out there and only a little convincing away from acting out.. which isn't especially comforting.

I just don't get the whole conspiracy angle like you guys do I guess.

For fun, lets reverse it.. say.. I don't know, 4 illegal Mexican immigrants broke into a house and gangraped and killed a white family this week. Would that raise eyebrows due to timing? Were they really white republicans masquerading as Mexicans to drive up support for (R)s? Or would it just be another incident (in a long line of incidents) that reinforces your already held beliefs about the ills of illegal immigrants?
 

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I know someone (NSA?) posted about this a few months back, but it appears to be going online even faster than expected. Prepare for the chinese to make your Orwellian nightmares real. All I can picture is the dystopian city full of gas-masked guards and little camera drones from Half-Life 2.

https://jalopnik.com/millions-of-ch...ite&utm_source=jalopnik_copy&utm_campaign=top

"The full rewards and punishments aren’t clear, but it essentially sounds like your “reward” will be being able to conduct yourself as per usual, whereas punishments will make it way more difficult to do even the most basic things in life. Difficult travel has been the most obvious punishment, but it’s also believed that slowing internet speeds, reducing access to good schools, banning folks from jobs, preventing hotel bookings, and losing the right to own pets are among the list of things a Chinese national might be experiencing for making a mistake in the eyes of the government. You can’t really even take a step without the government knowing about it and judging it."

"Maybe even worse—the government will have the right to publish records of business and individuals who are deemed to be untrustworthy. So not only are citizens being punished by the government, but they can also start being punished by other citizens."
 

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Sounds like a recipe for revolution to me... Thanks to capitalistic progress, mass media and the internet, the freedom genie is already out of the bottle over there in all but the more backward places. This may be an attempt by the government to return society to previous levels of control. Not sure it's going to work out that way if enough (particularly young) people end up on the naughty list.
 

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Yeah.. I think I posted it in.. THE CHINA THREAD WE HAVE.. you know.. sheesh.

But whatever we don't care about such order here, ATTICA! ATTICA!

I think the genius of the system is it tricks people into doing the governments work for them. Extra points for me if I rat on someone else? Score! Incentives for me if I have a high rating? Score! It's a highly punitive system, but on the surface it will look rewarding and 'fun'. I mean most people don't think they do anything bad on a daily basis so why should they worry?

If the Chinese are especially smart they're start very small, even with small forgiving corrective measures to get people used to it, lobster boiling style. By the time the real hard restrictions set in, everyone is so used to it, no one even notices. Maybe bigger bonuses for turning in a "traitor to the state!".

It's just the next evolution of the "Social Media Network". The public sharing isn't much different to the public shaming we have today on Facebook/Twitter/etc, it's just going to be government sanctioned. You can get railroaded right here right now in the US in the "social media sphere" without doing anything wrong (could be mistaken identity). Someone could decide they want to crusade against you and.. bam.

What if a Nacho, who owns storage spaces was alleged to hold mexican immigrant children in his spaces! I know, I heard from a totally reputable person! Now I post that on social media.. and.. oh HE LIKES TRUMP.. more people randomly clicking like and retweet and share.. I don't need any facts or evidence or anything, just a well worded inflammatory story.. Sure, maybe it takes a couple days for enough people to call the local PD for them to do some sort of half ass investigation (even they think this is stupid) but that's enough time for your suppliers to cut bait with you, customers to not want to be associated with the "kid prison storage complex" and bam.. welcome to outrage culture 2018.
 

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Agreed, the constant stress of having to dance for the government... ugh. Some people in this country spend time trying to look rich, virtuous, and well-intentioned. Even when they clearly are not. We refer to them as "Put-Ons", as in they put up a false image trying to convince the world how great they are. Phonies, Posers, and two-faced losers. They are the worst among us, IMO.

But imagine if your livelihood depended on it! Imagine if you had to be a poser for the government... if you had to be a Put-On 24-7 just so you could keep your job or be eligible to travel. There are few things less appealing in the universe.

It sounds like a living hell, even if they do bring it about slowly enough that their populace doesn't revolt. I think if they tried that shit here, there really would be another civil war. Hell, in TN we've already revolted against redlight cameras. Our own lawmakers tell us not to pay the automated fines. If that doesn't fly, I can't see big brother taking over in my lifetime. But it's scary to watch a techno-dictatorship in action...
 

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Gawd there is nothing worse than patronizing. I can't do it now and it costs me prices I'm willing to pay. People think I'm a dick (is honesty the best policy?). But when it'll be my ability to live?? I have to live a "life" patronizing or I don't get a life?? I don't want to be fake!

I already feel like I'm putting myself in peril sharing my currently free speech opinions "anonymously". I get the feeling that one day my past opinions will become illegal and will be dug up and used against me retroactively. I'm already policing myself! :panic:
 

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Big brother is already here. One of my complants about Facebook is that I am NEVER seeing a truely update feed. If I log into wotk I get one feed, from my ipad a different feed complete with different posts from the same people.

Now I actually said something bad about a certain educational institution with socialist mentality, suddenly my feed changes 100% I can't even view the other comments on the thread I made the comment about.

Everything we post online can & will be used against us. Which is why VideoViper exists & I am not posting about nerd stuff on facebook with my real name.
 

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The Controlists (it's the only way I can come up with to encapsulate the socialist/leftist/PC/globalist/elitist/1%ers/bankster/enviro-climatist/deep state/whatever else cabal) are pushing back hard worldwide. They want a fully controlled, fully blended, LCD society that they can dominate, extract even more wealth from and fully impose their will upon. Whether it's all coordinated or competitive between factions, the powers that be are working to (re)consolidate their power. I feel like popular movements like Brexit and Trump/MAGA have only slowed the inevitable, because the majority of people just aren't bright enough/care enough to see beyond the screen they can't put down/pry their eyes from. And I'm actually a little surprised we haven't been handed a full scale global conflict in response. Freedom in any form is being willfully, incrementally diminished all over the place. And the majority of the world populace thinks that's okay, as long as it is presented in a way that makes them feel safer, more prosperous and entertained.
 
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I feel like popular movements like Brexit and Trump/MAGA have only slowed the inevitable, because the majority of people just aren't bright enough/care enough to see beyond the screen they can't put down/pry their eyes from. And I'm actually a little surprised we haven't been handed a full scale global conflict in response.
All of that was spot on, but the bolded part is exactly how I'm feeling too. But I'm actually not sure its slowed anything. I think it has forced the cabals hands and they have tripled down on their rhetoric and actions. I've even seen a couple articles from the left (one from HRC) saying "Whoa! We need to slow down on the immigration push. We're going too hard and fast and people are noticing and we're inadvertently creating populist movements."
 

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All of that was spot on, but the bolded part is exactly how I'm feeling too. But I'm actually not sure its slowed anything. I think it has forced the cabals hands and they have tripled down on their rhetoric and actions. I've even seen a couple articles from the left (one from HRC) saying "Whoa! We need to slow down on the immigration push. We're going too hard and fast and people are noticing and we're inadvertently creating populist movements."
I think unfettered it would have been even more blatant and possibly even more accelerated. An HRC administration with a dem majority congress would have pushed the country (Judicially alone) way to the left for the next 2-3 decades minimum, allowed millions more illegals and/or drove us into WW3 (still a possibility) and sucked trillions more out of the economy.

You read my mind. I was soooo close to including that or a gif of it.
 
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I think unfettered it would have been even more blatant and possibly even more accelerated. An HRC administration with a dem majority congress would have pushed the country (Judicially alone) way to the left for the next 2-3 decades minimum, allowed millions more illegals and/or drove us into WW3 (still a possibility) and sucked trillions more out of the economy.
I'm certain that had she won, we'd have open borders in one form or another by now. Definitely before the midterms so that the house and senate would've been locks. The majority Dem SC would be dismantling the bill of rights. We'd be in the midst of a genuine civil war or on the way to one. We'd have so many 3rd worlders here that if we still had traditional elections, they'd go to the D's forever.

But yeah, I guess Trump has slowed what could've been (and eventually will be), but greatly increased the NWOs rhetoric and political activism at every level. From local nobodies, to the MSM, to people embedded in our governments, to billionaire NGOs hell bent on the destruction of the West. The work doesn't stop for them simply because they temporarily lost their power.
 
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