Marvel: Phase whatever it is now.
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. All that.The more SJW they get, the less interested I become.
Paying for another streaming service?
I may change my mind after some trailers, but right now, I'm feeling like Endgame was a very satisfactory ending to the MCU. It felt extremely final to me. Knowing that they plan to crank the propaganda up to this level...
I just - I just feel done.
We'll see.
Truly. Endgame is most definitely a nice place to jump off. Where to? John Wick is fun... Now would be a great time for some dark horse to come along and snatch the folks who have had enough propaganda from SW and apparently now the MCU. Anybody seen anything out there on the horizon that might be a contender?
Ya I can't get wrapped up in the hype machine just yet. I learned from Star Wars its better to just go in blind.
Marvel has earned my trust.. that if they are going to do this, they will do it as well as possible.
As far as the Valkyrie being gay, in traditional Disney/Marvel style she was outed after the 1st movie came out because there weren't any real indications that was part of her character & Hollywood thinks all strong women must be gay... reasons I guess. The Marvel hype of we are introducing the "first" gay character into the MCU in an upcoming movie is really annoying since
1. They already outed Valkyrie
2. There is like at least a half dozen or more throughout the TV universe Who honestly at least handled the storyline better. (mostly)
Also the whole CW every gay hero sleeps around thing is exactly why I can't watch a kid's super hero shows with my kid. So I suspect this tread will not age well. (I am calling it now the transgender thing will be the future's blackface.)
Marvel has earned my trust.. that if they are going to do this, they will do it as well as possible.
As far as the Valkyrie being gay, in traditional Disney/Marvel style she was outed after the 1st movie came out because there weren't any real indications that was part of her character & Hollywood thinks all strong women must be gay... reasons I guess. The Marvel hype of we are introducing the "first" gay character into the MCU in an upcoming movie is really annoying since
1. They already outed Valkyrie
2. There is like at least a half dozen or more throughout the TV universe Who honestly at least handled the storyline better. (mostly)
Also the whole CW every gay hero sleeps around thing is exactly why I can't watch a kid's super hero shows with my kid. So I suspect this tread will not age well. (I am calling it now the transgender thing will be the future's blackface.)
ScarJo is definitely getting a lot of crap for daring to portray one in some upcoming flick. If she hasn't already, she's likely to back away from that one, at least if she wants to still be in the cool club in H'wood.
The irony... if she wants to be in the Hwood cool club, she has to tow the propaganda line. And like Vv says, one day the same big wigs pushing her to do it will be the same ones lambasting her for doing it.
Watched Spider-man Far From Home again last night with some friends.. theater was packed!
Just as good the 2nd time, caught a few things I didn't the first time around. GREAT movie to end Phase 3 with and give you some closure from Endgame.
Hate having to wait almost a whole year for another Marvel movie, but I think it'll probably give the MCU some time to breathe.
Just as good the 2nd time, caught a few things I didn't the first time around. GREAT movie to end Phase 3 with and give you some closure from Endgame.
Hate having to wait almost a whole year for another Marvel movie, but I think it'll probably give the MCU some time to breathe.
Let's see, we have:
Side story for a dead character that should have headlined the first female-led MCU film.
Thor: Scissor Sister Looking For Love.
Dr. Strange 2: Mystical Booglaoo.
Chinese 3rd-stringer no one has heard of (but will likely be heads-and-tails above the rest of the Phase Four schlock).
The Celestial's test tube babies: The Movie.
Bunch of series that will only last a season or two, before being cancelled because they suck or because Netflix/Disney Plus are run by fucking retards. Blade to get wasted like the Punisher.
Do I have the broad strokes correct?
Side story for a dead character that should have headlined the first female-led MCU film.
Thor: Scissor Sister Looking For Love.
Dr. Strange 2: Mystical Booglaoo.
Chinese 3rd-stringer no one has heard of (but will likely be heads-and-tails above the rest of the Phase Four schlock).
The Celestial's test tube babies: The Movie.
Bunch of series that will only last a season or two, before being cancelled because they suck or because Netflix/Disney Plus are run by fucking retards. Blade to get wasted like the Punisher.
Do I have the broad strokes correct?
I think the series are being made purposefully to only be 1 season, so they're more like mini-series, since they will tie in directly with the next movies, I don't know that it'd make sense to have more than 1 season. I suppose they could, but I guess we'll see. With the way they laid them out, I expect them to be one and done experiences like movies.
Would be cool if they had 1 long running series though that weaved in and out of the movies (like I hoped SHIELD would do), but alas..
Would be cool if they had 1 long running series though that weaved in and out of the movies (like I hoped SHIELD would do), but alas..
I like this, in theory... but think it was better to cut it out.
VFX weren't finalized obviously, I do like that you see Gamora is alive and bails, and the respect is touching, but ultimately not needed.
VFX weren't finalized obviously, I do like that you see Gamora is alive and bails, and the respect is touching, but ultimately not needed.
It's a bit redundant with the funeral scene. You don't need sad music and closeups in consecutive scenes.
For those of you not happy with the news of the She-Thor movie, there is precedent for it. Jason Aaron has written a very well-received run of the comic over the past 3-4 years that featured a significant chunk with Jane as Thor. So knowing that, the Portman reveal didn't seem overly woke or gender-bending for the hell of it. They're just copying the comics. And it developed in the comics naturally, not some kind of attention-getting SJW stunt.
For those of you not happy with the news of the She-Thor movie, there is precedent for it. Jason Aaron has written a very well-received run of the comic over the past 3-4 years that featured a significant chunk with Jane as Thor. So knowing that, the Portman reveal didn't seem overly woke or gender-bending for the hell of it. They're just copying the comics. And it developed in the comics naturally, not some kind of attention-getting SJW stunt.
I honestly don't much care about Jane Thor and was aware of the swap in the comics. I think it's a waste though if they don't continue Thor Odinson's journey. He's gotten so much more entertaining to watch and now they are about to replace him? And the Valkyrie thing... 
I haven't read the comics but I believe the Jane thing is part of his Journey, as he does something that makes him 'unworthy' so he loses his powers/etc.
Exactly, and eventually he regains his worthiness, takes back the mantle of Thor, and now Jane is becoming the Valkyrie.
If you read enough mainstream comics, you realize that they never change anything. They are simply quite good at producing the illusion of change. But at some point, they always fix the toys and put them back in the box for the next wave of creators to play with.
The movie Valkyrie thing is... disappointing, but not completely out of character for what they've built. She was a pretty ardent man-hater in Ragnarok, so to me it's not totally out of left field. But mostly life is too short to give a damn about lame shit like that. It won't prevent me from enjoying the film, as I pretty much have to put these movies in their own silo anyway, as they differ far too much from the "real" stories in the comics to matter in the grand mythology of the characters. I treat them like a classic "What If " or Elseworlds stories, and they can do whatever crazy shit they like in those.
If you read enough mainstream comics, you realize that they never change anything. They are simply quite good at producing the illusion of change. But at some point, they always fix the toys and put them back in the box for the next wave of creators to play with.
The movie Valkyrie thing is... disappointing, but not completely out of character for what they've built. She was a pretty ardent man-hater in Ragnarok, so to me it's not totally out of left field. But mostly life is too short to give a damn about lame shit like that. It won't prevent me from enjoying the film, as I pretty much have to put these movies in their own silo anyway, as they differ far too much from the "real" stories in the comics to matter in the grand mythology of the characters. I treat them like a classic "What If " or Elseworlds stories, and they can do whatever crazy shit they like in those.
I hate race gender switches so my aditude is the since Valkyrie are a group not a particular individual traditional blonde comic book Valkyrie we saw die in Ragnarok & black Valkyrie is a new character so they can do whatever they want & it won’t bother me.
Can’t say I ever liked the idea of female Thor, but Marvel will make it work as best as possible.
Can’t say I ever liked the idea of female Thor, but Marvel will make it work as best as possible.
Disney+ announced 3 more shows..
Ms Marvel
MOON KNIGHT
She Hulk
To go along with the previously announced..
Loki
Wandavision
What if?
The Falcon and the Winter Solider
US Agent (?) to be in Falcon, and Ms Marvel will make it into the movies apparently... developing..
Ms Marvel
MOON KNIGHT
She Hulk
To go along with the previously announced..
Loki
Wandavision
What if?
The Falcon and the Winter Solider
US Agent (?) to be in Falcon, and Ms Marvel will make it into the movies apparently... developing..
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Really surprised that she hulk is on the list, thought that was still tied up with Universal. Technically Hulk is still licensed there too so I guess it’s the same license deal.
I wonder if direct to streaming service is somehow treated differently than a big budget movie? Even though these are supposed to be comparable..
Well streaming projects do have a smaller budget even when visually they look comparable.
As far as Marvel goes, he who shall not be named may not be involved with the new TV projects. (Lets hope) but I could be wrong. As the budget is what killed most TV projects, looking at you Inhumans & AoS.
As far as Marvel goes, he who shall not be named may not be involved with the new TV projects. (Lets hope) but I could be wrong. As the budget is what killed most TV projects, looking at you Inhumans & AoS.
I am pretty sure that Feige is in charge of all the Disney+ stuff, and it'll be on a different tier level than the AoS/Inhumans/etc shows.. and even the Netflix stuff.
I think I'll believe it when I see it, but they ARE casting their big name MCU actors in it (Falcon! Winter Soldier! Wanda! Loki!) so I can't imagine we'll get same corridor action like AoS.
I doubt it'll be full MCU-movie level, since it's spread out over 6-10 episodes, but should still be really good.. and impacting the MCU as a whole.
I think I'll believe it when I see it, but they ARE casting their big name MCU actors in it (Falcon! Winter Soldier! Wanda! Loki!) so I can't imagine we'll get same corridor action like AoS.
I doubt it'll be full MCU-movie level, since it's spread out over 6-10 episodes, but should still be really good.. and impacting the MCU as a whole.
Depends on who the show runners are. Perlmutter is legendary in the budget cutting. But I suspect that Disney has known Star Wars is a bust for a while so I understand them doubling down on Marvel & at this point it looks like the shows should be high quality. But then again Disney has sometimes been their own worst enemy.
What If is the show I am currently most interested in since that was a great comic. (Heros regularly died but it didn't matter because they were stand along stories aka Dark Timelines.)
What If is the show I am currently most interested in since that was a great comic. (Heros regularly died but it didn't matter because they were stand along stories aka Dark Timelines.)
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Watched Far from Home with the wife and my older two kids on the big screen tonight. First of all, wow. I went in with controlled expectations and almost no spoilers, and man, we all really enjoyed it, significantly more so than Homecoming. This one felt less rushed and more planned out. My wife completely did not see the twist coming. I only really knew because of the comics. Overall, really really cool. Particularly the effects. Also loved the (proper) homage to Iron Man and the characters they brought over. Not sure what to make of the post credit scene (the alien one) though.
Anyway, I’m glad to have something new to look forward to from Marvel, and certainly happy that they got over their tiff with Sony, since Spidey is one of a few thinks I’m now fully interested in watching play out.
Anyway, I’m glad to have something new to look forward to from Marvel, and certainly happy that they got over their tiff with Sony, since Spidey is one of a few thinks I’m now fully interested in watching play out.
The twist completely fooled me too. Tom Spiderman series has certainly been my favorite to this point. So glad they worked it out.
Not marvel related! Get that shit out of here! LOL
I will say I guess she looks better than her normal short hair.. but I don't give a crap either way. I haven't ever caught up with the CW DC shows.
As for Spider-man twist.. yeah, I KNEW he was bad just from having general knowledge of the character.. but about 1/2 in I honestly thought they'd wait till the end to turn him bad, and he'd be the big bad in the next movie.. so I was surprised at the actual twist. I really liked the movie too. It was fun and exciting and I did love the tributes to Iron Man/etc. Felt earned.
I THINK the ending is a hint at Agents of SWORD maybe? With the Eternals and stuff I think a lot more Cosmic stuff will be going on.. which is fine..
I will say I guess she looks better than her normal short hair.. but I don't give a crap either way. I haven't ever caught up with the CW DC shows.
As for Spider-man twist.. yeah, I KNEW he was bad just from having general knowledge of the character.. but about 1/2 in I honestly thought they'd wait till the end to turn him bad, and he'd be the big bad in the next movie.. so I was surprised at the actual twist. I really liked the movie too. It was fun and exciting and I did love the tributes to Iron Man/etc. Felt earned.
I THINK the ending is a hint at Agents of SWORD maybe? With the Eternals and stuff I think a lot more Cosmic stuff will be going on.. which is fine..
We can finally talk about how underoo superman sucks! And the John Williams superman music sucks! And.. other things that aren't true but would be fun if we did think like that..
I've already openly stated I like MoS (Supes with his underpants on the inside of his costume) pretty well and think DC sadly went downhill (WW excluded for the most part) since then. And that Zimmer is most definitely > Williams in my opinion.
Feel free to join in though. It is the Marvel thread after all!
Feel free to join in though. It is the Marvel thread after all!
I still need to see BvS.. though I don't know if I ever will after Justice League was just so.. so bad.
I'd rate the ones I've seen...
MoS: 7.7
BvS: ----
Wonder Woman: 8.0
Justice League: 4.7
Suicide Squad: 7? I remember being entertained.
Aquaman: 8.2
Shazam: 8.5
I'd rate the ones I've seen...
MoS: 7.7
BvS: ----
Wonder Woman: 8.0
Justice League: 4.7
Suicide Squad: 7? I remember being entertained.
Aquaman: 8.2
Shazam: 8.5
BvS was so bad I don't think I ever watched the whole thing from start to finish. I have seen all of it.