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The people that love NYC defend it with a passion that I cannot grasp. They probably say the same thing about our love of land, car-ownership, guns, and minimal crime. Who would want THAT?!
My gut reaction is to just assume that they don't know any better, that they've never lived outside of the mega-urban bubble... but that would make me guilty of making assumptions about them, and I hate that in reverse. I know they think we live in flyover states b/c we haven't experienced the glory of... subways, street hotdogs, and being accosted by crazy people?
F#$% if I know. They can have it. That just means less of them coming here.
My gut reaction is to just assume that they don't know any better, that they've never lived outside of the mega-urban bubble... but that would make me guilty of making assumptions about them, and I hate that in reverse. I know they think we live in flyover states b/c we haven't experienced the glory of... subways, street hotdogs, and being accosted by crazy people?
F#$% if I know. They can have it. That just means less of them coming here.
Oh I have lots of family in NY, & you can not convince them its not the greatest place in the world.
- You can get any kind of food that you want within a short distance.
- Pay is high, - even if cost of living is just as high.
- Surrounded by like minded people telling you how great you are.
- One place in the world where you could be as weird looking as possible (Spiderman walking down the street weird.) & NO ONE will even do a second glance.
- Lots of cool places museums, tourists stuff, broadway to go that they never go to.
But take them out of their hamster cages & 1 of 2 things happen.
- They lose their sh!t, drive like they have NEVER had their car go over 40mph, freak out starbucks isn't walking distance, Insert rant about how in NYC we don't take this sh!t.
- They adapt, start the realize how incredibly unhappy they are being packed in, & move out. Usually taking their issues with them to some other unsuspecting place. see Florida.
- You can get any kind of food that you want within a short distance.
- Pay is high, - even if cost of living is just as high.
- Surrounded by like minded people telling you how great you are.
- One place in the world where you could be as weird looking as possible (Spiderman walking down the street weird.) & NO ONE will even do a second glance.
- Lots of cool places museums, tourists stuff, broadway to go that they never go to.
But take them out of their hamster cages & 1 of 2 things happen.
- They lose their sh!t, drive like they have NEVER had their car go over 40mph, freak out starbucks isn't walking distance, Insert rant about how in NYC we don't take this sh!t.
- They adapt, start the realize how incredibly unhappy they are being packed in, & move out. Usually taking their issues with them to some other unsuspecting place. see Florida.
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I'm so over highly populated areas. Granted, (Thank God) I never lived in the "big" city, but I did 11 years in northern VA (DC suburbs). It's amazing the quality of life at lower expense you can have away from a place like that. It's also crazy all the stuff you can do when you don't have to plan at least an hour in traffic to go 10 miles.
That's not to say people should never live in the city. In fact, I think every kid should spend at least a couple years in the city right out of college, right after a mandatory short trip to a third world country (and a year stint in the military for that matter). That way they can start to appreciate everything we have here in the REAL USA.
That's not to say people should never live in the city. In fact, I think every kid should spend at least a couple years in the city right out of college, right after a mandatory short trip to a third world country (and a year stint in the military for that matter). That way they can start to appreciate everything we have here in the REAL USA.
If there is a civil war in our time, I have to believe it will be between the densely populated blue urban areas and the red rural counties, likely with the "front lines" somewhere in the suburbs. At some point, it's possible the urban consumers will go too far and demand too much from the rural producers. Look at the by county election map for reference.
If the (likely blue) governors/legislators/etc. start/continue to (even more) tyrannically impose their will (draconian Covid restrictions as an example) upon the counties while allowing lawless chaos in the cities, there's a chance it will result in the reduction of food and consumables delivered to the cities. Exactly where do they think all that stuff comes from?
With shelves empty, restaurants closed and urban gas stations no longer supplied by truckers not willing to brave the lawless mobs, and because they are so dependent, desperation would set in rather quickly. As the supply in the cities quickly dries up, the zombie mobs would begin mulling outward in search of all the stuff no longer stocked at their burnt out Targets and corner stores.
First they start to pillage outward into the near suburbs and then the far suburbs. Each time running into people a little more prepared and a little better armed. The bloodshed would begin in earnest as people try to defend what they have. The local authorities and military could only hope to contain the chaos and provide what they could to the "starving" city dwellers. But they would be pushed to the brink when supplies run low and mobs demand more. Inept city/state/federal leadership would seal the fate of the desperate.
Once the "relief stations" are all sucked dry and destroyed and the authorities pushed out, the zombie horde would continue outward. By this time the full military, LE and even deputized civilians would be mobilized. Those that didn't abandon their posts to protect their own homes would be in daily conflict with the desperate, angry mobs (no longer receiving their entitlements). Gangs of zombies would push outward, looking for resources, pillaging until they run into better armed mobilized neighborhoods and towns, where they would be met with overwhelming defense.
This would likely happen similarly in many other places around the world, once word got out, the global economy crashed and panic set in. Then "help" would arrive in strategic places around the world. Whoever remained strongest would certainly provide "aid and support" through their military, and the conflict would grow over whatever is considered valuable.
None of this is remotely inevitable, but I would also caution that is is also way closer than it seems.
If the (likely blue) governors/legislators/etc. start/continue to (even more) tyrannically impose their will (draconian Covid restrictions as an example) upon the counties while allowing lawless chaos in the cities, there's a chance it will result in the reduction of food and consumables delivered to the cities. Exactly where do they think all that stuff comes from?
With shelves empty, restaurants closed and urban gas stations no longer supplied by truckers not willing to brave the lawless mobs, and because they are so dependent, desperation would set in rather quickly. As the supply in the cities quickly dries up, the zombie mobs would begin mulling outward in search of all the stuff no longer stocked at their burnt out Targets and corner stores.
First they start to pillage outward into the near suburbs and then the far suburbs. Each time running into people a little more prepared and a little better armed. The bloodshed would begin in earnest as people try to defend what they have. The local authorities and military could only hope to contain the chaos and provide what they could to the "starving" city dwellers. But they would be pushed to the brink when supplies run low and mobs demand more. Inept city/state/federal leadership would seal the fate of the desperate.
Once the "relief stations" are all sucked dry and destroyed and the authorities pushed out, the zombie horde would continue outward. By this time the full military, LE and even deputized civilians would be mobilized. Those that didn't abandon their posts to protect their own homes would be in daily conflict with the desperate, angry mobs (no longer receiving their entitlements). Gangs of zombies would push outward, looking for resources, pillaging until they run into better armed mobilized neighborhoods and towns, where they would be met with overwhelming defense.
This would likely happen similarly in many other places around the world, once word got out, the global economy crashed and panic set in. Then "help" would arrive in strategic places around the world. Whoever remained strongest would certainly provide "aid and support" through their military, and the conflict would grow over whatever is considered valuable.
None of this is remotely inevitable, but I would also caution that is is also way closer than it seems.
Yeah, I did my time in Houston, and while I had a good time there when I was young and... unencumbered, it made me appreciate the quiet country living a lot. Now my college friends that are still there are rather envious, and when they come visit, they're stunned by the nature/green, the elbow room, the fact that you can see stars & wildlife. If they weren't tied to their upper-management positions at big companies, they'd all leave in an instant.
I’ve seen the masses slowly transfer out into the suburbs bringing with them over crowding, problems & crime that results.
We have many NY citizens living in PA & NJ.
There is a reason we don’t see BLM style looting in the rural areas. Everyone knows they would be shot & disposed of. No law enforcement needed. That’s the quote from the Black guy.
I can potentially see something like this happening with COVID not enough resources to much need.
I really hope for a restart program (focused on business that closed & need to restart) but what I have in mind is probably not gonna fly since it puts rents loans etc on hold.
We have many NY citizens living in PA & NJ.
There is a reason we don’t see BLM style looting in the rural areas. Everyone knows they would be shot & disposed of. No law enforcement needed. That’s the quote from the Black guy.
I can potentially see something like this happening with COVID not enough resources to much need.
I really hope for a restart program (focused on business that closed & need to restart) but what I have in mind is probably not gonna fly since it puts rents loans etc on hold.
I still feel that capitalism will win out in the end, and the cities will still get their wares because they'll pay for it. I think there would need to be another kind of societal breakdown before your situation happens. Maybe the dollar becomes worthless or nonstop daily rioting or something.. but even then, the rioters got tired after a couple days in most places not named Portland, so I doubt they could keep it up long enough to cause systemic disruption.
This past summer of fun was the prime time for ANTIFA/BLM to spread out to the suburbs.. but largely they didn't. We had a 'protest' here on a street corner.. but it was mostly white people and nothing much happened. We had more Trump supporters line up on freeway overpasses.
I do think in your scenario one of the problems would be the police/military who live in the cities would be stuck without food too, if the country folk were really hoarding it, I don't think they wouldn't go again rural cops, and there are a lot more city cops.
I feel like this summer was just a preview. Those folks were hardly desperate.
Capitalism wouldn't survive the crash of the dollar. And, as things get scarce, there is very little likelihood that country folks would sell/trade their wares in the dangerous, far away cities when they could much more easily trade locally, particularly as fuel becomes more scarce/expensive.
I have a feeling that the city cops/NG/military would all have early access to the emergency supplies being brought in and would take what they could to their families before things really got out of control. And as things deteriorated in the cities, they'd be some of the first out, or at least their families would be. I think they'd get a relatively warm reception by fellow po po and family outside the cities, and would likely take up with enclaves there.
Capitalism wouldn't survive the crash of the dollar. And, as things get scarce, there is very little likelihood that country folks would sell/trade their wares in the dangerous, far away cities when they could much more easily trade locally, particularly as fuel becomes more scarce/expensive.
I have a feeling that the city cops/NG/military would all have early access to the emergency supplies being brought in and would take what they could to their families before things really got out of control. And as things deteriorated in the cities, they'd be some of the first out, or at least their families would be. I think they'd get a relatively warm reception by fellow po po and family outside the cities, and would likely take up with enclaves there.
Welcome to DeBlasio’s NYC, 2020 version (in case it wasn’t dismal enough alreasy)...
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This abomination is the 2020 Rockefeller Christmas Tree, because of course it is
If this isn't the perfect symbol for Christmas in 2020, I don't know what is.
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I thought the tree looked weak but it was still on the truck at that point. I wonder if they will take one of my trees.
Only in 2020:
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We, for one, welcome our new metal monolith overlord in Utah
Whatever this is, I love it. Thanks for coming!
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Tennessee topped U-Haul's list of states with the most one-way move ins in 2020. Can you guess which state was dead last?
Each year U-Haul releases a migration trends report which is calculated by taking the number of one-way U-Haul vehicles entering a state and subtracting how many left it.
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Looks like all the NSAs and Ewokhunters are coming to you, Nacho!
Damn.
"Coming in at #1 in 2020 was Tennessee.
Which makes a lot of sense when you consider that Tennessee has no income tax, lots of jobs, decent weather, doesn't stomp on the throats of small businesses, and isn't California.
Tennessee saw a 12% jump over 2019, and leap-frogged both Florida and Texas who had held the first and second positions on U-Haul's list for the previous four years.
California was dead last on the list (surprise, surprise), with Illinois and New Jersey right before them."
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We'll gladly take every red-blooded, red-voting, freedom-loving person who is interested. Commie SJWs need not apply.
Being in the storage business, it's no surprise that I talk to a lot of people who are relocating. And we've definitely seen a lot of folks from Cali and up north, many of whom mention (unsolicited) that they are fleeing the insanity of their former zipcodes. Many come to visit family or for work. When they get here, they realize that the whole world is not under the boot of their government.
I knew TN was in the midst of an influx, but I had no idea we were #1. That could explain why we had a banner year in the middle of a pandemic. And all this time I thought it was my charm, good looks, and superior sales skills
"Coming in at #1 in 2020 was Tennessee.
Which makes a lot of sense when you consider that Tennessee has no income tax, lots of jobs, decent weather, doesn't stomp on the throats of small businesses, and isn't California.
Tennessee saw a 12% jump over 2019, and leap-frogged both Florida and Texas who had held the first and second positions on U-Haul's list for the previous four years.
California was dead last on the list (surprise, surprise), with Illinois and New Jersey right before them."
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We'll gladly take every red-blooded, red-voting, freedom-loving person who is interested. Commie SJWs need not apply.
Being in the storage business, it's no surprise that I talk to a lot of people who are relocating. And we've definitely seen a lot of folks from Cali and up north, many of whom mention (unsolicited) that they are fleeing the insanity of their former zipcodes. Many come to visit family or for work. When they get here, they realize that the whole world is not under the boot of their government.
I knew TN was in the midst of an influx, but I had no idea we were #1. That could explain why we had a banner year in the middle of a pandemic. And all this time I thought it was my charm, good looks, and superior sales skills
Plans are (assuming the republic still exists by then) to come and vacation in your mountains down there in the spring. We cancelled our attempt to go to Hawaii that was to happen that week (again, after we cancelled our previous attempt last year). No way we are enduring the 'Rona travel hoops for most of a day each way and then whatever restrictions they are demanding over there on the island when we can just drive down and enjoy the fresh air of freedom right next door. Then another vacation down in SC in the fall again... also a free state. Mountains and the beach for less than the price of the single vacay to HI.
Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg I assume? A little hiking, a little Dollywood, some go-karts, minigolf, and good eating?
Yes, sir! Just north of Pigeon Forge. We'll probably be doing more scouting around than anything this time. My daughter's birthday is not long after and she loves horses, so I'm pretty certain a trail ride is in my future around that time. As for everything else in the area, we'll see what jumps out at us!
Very cool. Aside from the mountains and national park, there's a ton to do, adventure rides, "experiences", go-carts, musical shows, skiing (in winter), white water rafting, shopping, Wonderworks, Ripley's Aquarium, Dollywood, lots of places to eat. Just depends on what you're into, but there is something for everyone. And pancake houses. So many pancake houses, don't ask me why. I can give you the skinny on the legit vs poser pancake places. And Bud's Guns and Bass Pro too. And Cooter's!
If you can't find a way to entertain yourself in the greater Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg area, you don't have a pulse.
If you can't find a way to entertain yourself in the greater Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg area, you don't have a pulse.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it! It'll be out first time in TN. Sounds a lot like Williamsburg with the pancake houses. I think they are catering to the older population who get to have the most vacations.
No doubt. My grandparents would randomly wake up and drive an hour and a half just to go to their fav pancake house in gatlinburg about once a month.
I want to get out there sometime this year or next. We're starting our next 5 year plan I guess, so in a couple years I am going to be pushing to escape CA (again). After the wife visited Texas over the holidays she suddenly changed her tune and wants to move again (RIGHT AFTER WE BOUGHT A HOUSE).
Le sigh.
We are going to Hawaii this October (assuming the world has returned to some sort of normalcy).
Le sigh.
We are going to Hawaii this October (assuming the world has returned to some sort of normalcy).
Wife booked a flight to see my folks down in Florida. I’m ok traveling when it happens & hopefully some kind of normal at that point. Excited to see the family.
But at this point this shitty year makes it hard to get to excited.
But at this point this shitty year makes it hard to get to excited.