This was also a throwaway line in Rogue One. When they were going through the computer files to find the Death Star one, they come across a project that was just that, hyperspace tracking.It also helped them track ships in hyperspace.. how do they do it? It's not some magic nonsense..
Yeah, if they were going to digitally remove it, they should've done it earlier. Her guts should be on the floor at the very least.I suppose he dropped it. Am I the only one that watched that gif multiple times, and noted that the missing blade should have opened her up like a Ziploc bag, and then ended up stuck in her back? Plot armor is best armor!
I don't know if its so much Disney as they apparently gave Rian like total control of the movie with very little oversight.. which seems.. stupid.. so I guess that's still Disney's fault.Other than the bullshit about the computers in a hyperspace bubble, none of that sounds too bad. I think this just shows how Disney ruins everything.
https://www.dangerous.com/39863/meet-women-ruined-star-wars/“Fifty percent of our executive team are women. Six out of eight of the people in my Story Group are women. I think it’s making a huge difference in the kind of stories we’re trying to tell.”
So in the book there were apparently *30* Star Destroyers following them + the capital ship. I don't recall nearly that many in the movie. No additional space battles in the book, but the opening space battle was much better written than it was on screen. They had more build up that made the battle more of an impact.- Where the hell were my space battles? We get a little fight in the beginning and then it's just a slow speed pursuit the rest of the movie. The Star Destroyers were the most useless thing around. What was the damn point? Does the First Order only have 4 ships? The Resistance only has a couple?
So this was more or less explained. I guess there is another book.. Aftermath maybe? I bought it but haven't read it, but it covers the time period between the OT and the ST (Sequel Trilogy). But in TLJ book it goes into some details. Snokes ship is their capital. It can mine resources, can build Star Destroyers (and everything else) and has super advanced alien technology from the "unknown regions", which is outside of the New Republic.- How the hell did the First Order take over the galaxy after the last movie.. it literally begins moments after the Force Awakens ends (or at least appears so). The First Order had their damn planet blown up.. and suddenly they're the only military in the galaxy? This is more a dig on the new world-building in Star Wars.. but what the hell was the New Republic doing all those years?
The book has a decent amount of interactions with subordinates to Hux and other Admirals/etc. They seem a lot more like the Imperials and less comically bad. There are a few old guys who used to be Imperials and the First Order people make a point of pointing out how they now view the Empire as a big failure and feel like they're the ones who are going to do things right finally. It's slightly better, but still most of the focus is on Hux/Phasma.. who are just.. one dimensional.- The First Order is just comically bad. Like.. everyone involved is just evil for evil's sake. There isn't any reason, they're not trying to Make the Galaxy Great Again or anything, they're just bad because the story needs them to be bad. With the Empire.. sure, Vader, the Emperor, some other people were evil, but you could tell most of the rank and file were just there to do a job. Here it feels like everyone is on board with TEAM GO EVIL. It feels cheap.
Again, a little bit explained. The old-time Imperials want to do things right, but Hux comes in and tells them not to launch fighters, not to do this not to do that, he wants to make a show of things, etc etc. So it makes their idiocy more contained, which is still a problem (see above) but it at least kind of mitigates this issue.- To go along with being ridiculously evil, they're also completely inept. Like.. so stupid. You could swap them out with the crew from Spaceballs and I don't think anyone would notice. Again, to compared to the Empire.. the Empire made their mistakes, but for the most part they came off as competent military adversaries. This made it so the heroes had to actually be good at what they were doing in order to beat them, which means you feel like they earned their victories (Ewoks not withstanding).
A decent chunk of exposition is spent on him, what he did to form the First Order, some vague hints where he came from. His death was the same, but still really good. I can't help but feel he'll get his own book or show or something at some point to explain things. It doesn't excuse the storytelling here though, but the book was much more informative than the movie.- Snoke was a fucking joke. No backstory. No history. Nothing. I liked his short time in the movie, but they kill him off like its nothing.. and then.. that's it.
Hah! True that, self. But as I said above, yes, this is mostly covered.- Speaking of, still no explanation on the formation of the First Order or anything resembling that. I guess it's explained in the new books or something? But needing to read a book to understand a movie is bad movie making.
Sadly, not too much is changed. He's still mostly wasted. His arc here was, I guess, about going from a loner to an active participate in the Resistance. Somehow the casino planet was supposed to be the catalyst to make him think of the bigger picture? Or something? They tied this into the stupid Rose love plot, where the more he becomes a resistance fighter, the more she likes him. I dunno. I like Finn more than Rose, but both of them were inconsequential to this story.- Finn did nothing worthwhile the entire movie. All of his scenes could have been cut and it would have been perfectly fine. Lets go over them.. He wakes up and walks around the ship. He runs into annoying engineer.. security girl. He comes up with some wacky plan. He goes to a useless planet. He get another useless character to help with their wacky plan. Said plan doesn't work anyway. He gets a chance to sacrifice himself for the Resistance and gets stopped at the last second. Has a VERY stupid and VERY forced "romantic" scene with the stupid engineer girl. She LOVES him? She's spent like 12 hours with him. I guess he got to take down Phasma (also wasted in this movie again).
Yep. Lame. Worst character.- Engineer/Security girl. Also pretty useless. I thought the Bomber girl was her wife or something, they clarified it was her sister. They used this character to really ham up the "Rich vs Poor" angle, which was lame and felt forced.
Same. I said above they could have accomplished all of this (and still included it) by going directly from the jail breakout with DJ to the stolen ship. Or just skip it all together. It was a little better in the book, but not by much.- The whole casino planet felt forced. From landing.. on the BEACH? You're part of the Resistance.. shouldn't you be more stealthy? Walking around in a Resistance uniform? Like.. no subtly at all. The cutsey animals and kids was too much. The rich assholes gambling was too much. It all.. ugh. Just too much. Took away from the important stuff that was going on elsewhere. Could have been entirely cut and would not have impacted a thing.
A little bit better. They go into detail a bit before this happens with her reaching out through the Force for Luke, and explaining how she honed her Force-sense over the years, so it's not completely out of left field. Also she went into an airlock before the door opened, which is why they didn't all get sucked into space.. they just didn't decide to film it that way..- Leia surviving in space, and superman'ing her way back into the ship with the Force. COME ON MAN. Faking out her death with Carrie Fisher dying was pretty lame. Everyone kept waiting for her to bite it.. and she never does. But having her suddenly fly around with the Force? Ugh. It was super cringe-worthy.
A little better. She still should have told him, as there was a perfect opportunity when he saw the shuttles being fueled. He pulls the mutiny at the same time though, so theoretically she could have told him.. but.. I dunno. It's flimsy and still stupid, but a tiny bit better in writing than in film.- Holdo not telling Poe about her plan.. like.. seriously? He's the best pilot left and ostensibly 2nd in command.. if she would have shared the plan, then the whole casino world would never have happened! None of that! People would probably still be alive! I read online that it was put in as a show against "Toxic masculinity" and to show how men are bad. Figures.
The whole Craite base is explained more in depth, and tied to previous events in the Star Wars universe and feels much more like a Star Wars-story in the book. Leia visited the planet before A New Hope when the Rebels were just getting started, so she knew about the planet, and it was kept out of records on purpose as a fall back location. The equipment is old but they're giving it a try with whatever they can find. There is also some old artillery units they use in the fight that I don't really remember in the movie.- The stupid salt skimmers or whatever were so stupid AND useless. Didn't accomplish a damn thing. Didn't even slow them down. Like.. what was the point? Why couldn't they have used old Rebel Snowspeeders or something instead and been semi-effective?
A little bit more R2 but not enough.- Lack of R2-D2. Like.. why? Both movies now. I get they want BB-8 to be the 'new hotness' but there was room in the movie to have them both involved. C-3PO is just in the way now. I don't get it. It's a droid.. you can use droids forever, they don't age.
There is more exposition before he gets killed, so at least you know he's there, and some things he's gone through since the end of ROTJ. Their ship is also named the Raddus after the Mon-Cal commander in Rogue One. That's cool. Ackbar and Him didn't get along famously apparently.- Killing Admiral Ackbar like that was just dirty. I didn't even know he was there until someone mentioned it. Sad really.
Yep, yep. Nothing about the plot was changed in the book.- Really the whole main plot. Stuck in a slow speed chase for 18 hours. No one is being very inventive. It's just a stupid stand-off. Felt like they could have gone 100 different ways and made it better or more interesting. Put a traitor or saboteur on the resistance ship or something.
Still there, still think it's too over the top. Some things work better in text and some work better in live action.- Humor. There was a LOT. Most of it got laughs from the audience but it still felt out of place for Star Wars. Like prequel-level humor. Milking the fat alien. The slapstick stuff with the caretakers. The Poe/Hux joking around. It IS funny, but I wonder how it'll age.
The booked definitely helped with this, it has 100 more ties to the OT (and PT) than the movie shows, so it helps to anchor TLJ in place in-universe. I still feel like the movie was directed for a difference audience.- This is the first time in 37 years that I felt Star Wars isn't really made for ME. I am no longer the target audience. Even with the prequels I felt that there was enough there to connect me and keep me hooked. After TLJ I am feeling mostly ambivalent with everything Star Wars. I don't hate it, I just don't love it anymore.
Still not really explained, which is dumb. What was Luke's plan? He couldn't hurt or destroy anything being a projection.. what if the Resistance people just sat and watched the fight expecting him to defeat them all? If all he was doing was buying time, he should tell them that.. I know they wanted to make it a surprise that he wasn't really there.. but that's a big hole.- Why wouldn't Luke tell everyone he's a Force projection decoy, so they could START their escape right away? I know its because they're fooling the audience but it doesn't make any sense story wise. He cost them precious time. Hell, come to think of it, he didn't even know about the exit, so what was his plan anyway?
Yes, it should have been saved, but the extra details in the book helped make this not as bad.- Him dying or becoming one with the Force or whatever.. ehh. It was OK, but I felt like that should have been saved for the end of the next movie to close out the Skywalker saga. Now we just need to see Kylo bite it.. and we're done. Leia will have to be killed off-screen, which sucks.
They were not really expanded upon in the book either. Would have been nice to have a scene reading them or.. something.- The Jedi books were a useless plot device. Same with the dark side glory hole.
Again, book helps a little here by filling in the details and making "the new stuff" make more sense in the grand scheme of things.- The overriding theme was "fuck the old stuff you used to like" which, on one hand I give them credit for being so bold about it, but on the other hand really alienates me as a fan (see above). My biggest issue with it, is that the stuff they provide to replace the old stuff isn't of equal caliber, so we're left with an inferior product.
Sigh. Yes.- I would have MUCH preferred the Luke scenes at the end to be as follows: Luke arrives, goes out to confront the First Order. They go to fire on him like they do, but after he 'survives', he shows the power of the Jedi and just straight destroys the walkers with the Force. Closes his eyes and you just see the rivets/etc popping out of the walkers as he pulls them apart. The troopers come out, and Kylo goes to confront him alone, the rest can play out the same. I just think it would have been so cool to see a final ultimate use of the Force by Skywalker.
This was also explained in the book as super complicated technology that the First Order developed based on an Imperial project.. but with alien help/etc. It's all very technical and detailed, but it makes "Star Wars sense". BUT it's kind of a big thing to hide behind details you can't really show on screen.. not sure why they didn't think of a better way to do this.- If the First Order was tracking the Resistance through hyperspace.. couldn't they have found the tracking beacon? Or was it just more technobabble that wasn't explained?