Star Wars |OT| General (Kenobi) Thread

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Yeah all their Disney+ things look promising.

I imagine they're going back to the drawing board with SW and it will be VERY MCU like when it returns. There is no reason to release Rogue One and Solo between numbered movies and have them relate exactly 0% to each other. You put in a couple of foreshadowing things or whatever in there and you have a connected universe. Straight prequels are cool.. but don't keep the hype meter full like the Marvel movies do.
 

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Interesting it doesn't say the next TRILOGY is by them.. I wonder if they're planning to alternate with the Rian Johnson movies? Or..? Who knows. I guess they have time to figure it out. I keep hearing the Rian Johnson stuff is canceled.. so who knows.

I kind of wonder if more stuff will just go to the Disney+ service instead now. I read they have a 3rd series set already, after the Mandalorian and the Cassian show.
 

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I've been reading that maybe they're only doing 1 movie? I can see them doing a fine job on 1 movie, or maybe even a trilogy if they plan it from the beginning. The worst part of GOT is the switch from the early seasons which were written for them, and the 2nd half they had to do, and trying to mix those two writing styles didn't jive well.
 

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LOL asshole.

I think the biggest difference is creative control the whole time vs being forced to adapt someone else's work.

VISUALLY I enjoyed the whole series, some of the shots this season have been great.

EMOTIONALLY it got all fucked up, specifically because they were racing to end it (probably so they could get started on Star Wars).

I don't think it'll be a 1:1 comparison for a stand alone 2-hour film.. and if they can use what they learned on GOT.. then I'll remain mildly intrigued. I think it's also not tied to the normal OT/timeline so who knows what it'll even be about. Old Republic?
 

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Given the SW movie history: The are probably hoping to make a trilogy if the first one is a hit. (That's what they hoped for Solo; Rouge One kinda not, although at first before they decided to kill off everyone, there might have been a hope for more OT movies starring the new cast.)
 

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So new SW trilogy that has nothing to do with the OT by the guys that did this garbage season of GoT? They are actively trying to get me care less and less. Not to mention that it's almost a guarantee that they'll be even more SJWlicious than the other new stuff.

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Yeah, SW (at least the movies) is currently circling the drain for me. I could deal with minimal Gurl Powah!!! so long as the rest of the writing/directing is decent or better (MCU). But that mixed with crappy, incoherent writing and zero preparation/coordination ahead of movies that are supposed to be continuation stories... NOPE.
 

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I have a feeling that's why they're setting up a 3 year break to cleanse the palate as it were.

No one really has any idea how they'll come back or what they'll come back with. I'll give it a firm wait and see now.

SW has been SOOO reliant on nostalgia (forced and otherwise) that it is not sustainable. We don't want things changed, but we're tired of the same old same old.. impossible to please fans.

A whole new story set in some other time outside the Rebels/Empire seems to be the safest bet.. but how do you make it feel like Star Wars? At that point why does it even need to be Star Wars? I dunno. The Knights of the Old Republic games were damn awesome, and managed to do so.. so hopefully they take some inspiration from that.
 

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SW has been SOOO reliant on nostalgia (forced and otherwise) that it is not sustainable. We don't want things changed, but we're tired of the same old same old.. impossible to please fans.
Uhhhh, speak for yourself. Rogue One was amazing (to me at least) because of nostalgia and same old same old. Because it was the closest to the OT in feel and look than any other SW film since the OT. Because it was set literally in the time period of the first SW film. It was OT but cinematically looked far superior. I'm not even close to tired of it. I want mountains more of it. The further they stray from it, the less interested in it I become.

I don't know what stories they could tell in that OT time period, I don't know what characters they could focus on in that OT time period, but I need it set then. I need it to look like the OT. The production, the technology, the costumes, everything. When things start getting too far technologically advanced (prequels or sequels) and starts looking all clean and spiffy, I'm just not as immersed. Toss in new characters AND agendas and absolutely retarded story telling (thanks, Rian), pfft, get bent SW.
 

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I loved Rogue One too, but I feel like there would be a limit to how many stories they could concoct to exist around the OT, especially now. If they'd never done prequels or sequels, then sure, but they put themselves in a box at this point.

Ideally, we would have gotten a SWCU (Star wars cinematic universe? lol) where every film was building towards something big, like the "Episode" movies. The way Marvel does it. Imagine getting 2-3 good SW movies a year that lead up to the next big chapter. The way they did it with Rogue One and SOLO was like if Marvel did Captain Marvel, it ended, and you never saw her again. Sure, it'd be kind of entertaining, but the big draw is that *EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED* and SW just seriously dropped the ball on that, at least for now .

Also.. rumor going around that the GOT guys are writing the next movie and Rian is directing.. so who knows. I don't know if that is better or worse. TLJ *LOOKED* fine, I think my issues are more with the story.
 

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My TLJ issues all boils down to Leia not being the pilot of the cruiser CONSIDERING SHE DIED IRL and then the fact Luke fought a fictional battle and died anyways. I can look past and even enjoy all the stupid parts like the OJ chase and the pointless casino adventure, but wasting the last 2 OT characters is unforgivable.
 

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I wonder how hard it would have been to re-purpose those scenes. They're using unused stuff for TROS.. so.. I dunno.

Leia was supremely wasted in both movies though. Hell, she was sleeping for most of this after her Mary Poppins stunt.

I'll never understand what any of them were thinking with sidelining the OT cast as much as they did. I get it, you want to have the new younger people be the stars.. but come on, man.
 

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ILeia was supremely wasted in both movies though. Hell, she was sleeping for most of this after her Mary Poppins stunt.

I'll never understand what any of them were thinking with sidelining the OT cast as much as they did. I get it, you want to have the new younger people be the stars.. but come on, man.
It would have been really hard (& quite awkward) to rewrite Leia since the movie was already filmed when she past. While they could have let her die on the ship, They would have to re-write the second half of the story.

It doesn't help that the new characters are crap. A lot of the sidelining would have been forgiven had they written the noobs as people worth watching.
To be fair both directors made the same mistake, the new characters played second fiddle to the OT cast & were never given the chance to shine.
photo coping A New Hope didn't help because everyone knew what was going to happen on the 1st watch.

More of the same in 8 shows that somewhere in this process somebody does really get why SW was popular.
 

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It's going to be $ALLOFTHEMONEY to stay there.. but fuck, probably worth it.

I hope they put the whole thing on hydraulics so the whole damn hotel shakes and moves when they're evading bad guys. I was wondering if you made an (ocean) ship into something like this, and had TVs where all the portholes/windows would be, showing space instead of the outside.. it'd totally feel like a space ship.
 

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Yeah, if I hadn't written this bullshit off before, the butterfly light saber definitely would have been my moment. Jesus, there needs to be rules for lightsaber design. Moving on, we have a minute and a half of nostalgia bait, after they went through the whole "let the past die, kill it if you have to" spiel.

God, I fucking hate Disney.
 

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... and because of her immense training and experience qualifications. Ugh. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure even my kids will be able to convince me to go watch this. I had hoped they'd conveniently kill her off screen.
 

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"You're X-Wings are ready, sirs and ma'ams!" Commander Rose says as the pilots run past her in her one 5 second scene in the movie. - That's about as much as I could stomach.