Toys R Us to close 200 more stores.

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I'd be hard pressed to believe SW figures actually sell, at least well enough to justify all the real estate TrU dedicated to them. Obviously they must, but they just don't seem like it. Takara and 3rd parties do TFs better than Hasbro ever will, and Hasbro MLs don't seem to be THAT much better than ToyBiz's.
Mass-market TFs aren't aimed at the 3P/MP market. While I don't have any interest in Hasbro's current TF products, kids and fans of the movies certainly do. WM and Target have no problem moving their products, so I don't know why a dedicated toy store would struggle with those relative to anything else.

And they seem to sell enough star wars everywhere else too. I don't know why a new venture wouldn't either.

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I couldn't disagree more about Marvel Legends. As someone who owns probably 60-70% of every ML ever made (and probably 99% of the sculpts/bucks), I can say with great certainty that current Hasbro ML's are orders of magnitude better figures, better sculpts than anything Toybiz ever imagined in their wildest wet dreams. I fully admit that early Hasbro legends were complete garbage... because they were mostly reusing a lot of TB designs/tooling. The sculpting was really poor, proportions were awkward, and the inordinate number of unnecessary PoA/hinges made them an ugly, floppy mess. And those ball-hips, ugh.

However, about 5-6 years ago, they turned a corner. Face sculpts improved dramatically, and on movie figures, they're using digital face printing much like their far more expensive import brethern. They got rid of those heinous ball hip joints, and they improved figure proportions in a major way. The modern hasbro figures make me proud to display them. The toybiz bow-legged nightmares make we want to burn them with fire. These days, TB figures look like bad mexican knockoffs.

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Feels like we are moving towards miniature malls in big box buildings. The idea is fine by me, but the small size will make them stick to the most popular toys and we’ll end up copies of Walmart and Target toy departments. Also sounds like they will be mostly filled with their own brands you can’t buy anywhere else, taking away our collectibles space.
 

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The way the 3rd party Transformers market is humming along and turning an eye towards the Baybots tells me the youngins are willing to shell out cash if they like the property. Most of them probably just by those stupid POP thingies though.
 

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Exactly. If it was a worldwide deal, then I could seeing that being worthwhile. But I highly doubt HK is popular enough domestically to make up for losing DC and Disney licenses.

It would be like Habsro losing the Star Wars license and being like, "It's ok, we picked up Godzilla!"
 

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Except for the fact that people on this side of the big pond put 100% of the story elements into the whole thing, coalescing their many disperate lines of nameless transforming robot toys into a franchise for the ages. Without Hasbro and Marvel, those things would never have gotten any bigger than Gatchaman, if that.
 

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That’s because America leads the world in writing bullshit to make you want to buy something.
It works doesn't it? None of us would be here right now if Hasbro wasn't good at making children (and their adult selves) want to buy stuff.

Takara is superior at TF engineering, no doubt, but without Hasbro's input into TF, what are the odds Takara still even exists today? The most successful thing they've developed in the last 35 years was fucking Beyblade. If not for TF, even Mattel would laugh at them.