Army announces its pick for UCP replacement.
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It was developed at the same time as Multicam.
If you want to really be pissed off as a taxpayer, consider Crye Precision wanted 25 million for Multicam, and the Army scoffed, but how much did they end up pissing away on UCP and this new round of procurement?
If you want to really be pissed off as a taxpayer, consider Crye Precision wanted 25 million for Multicam, and the Army scoffed, but how much did they end up pissing away on UCP and this new round of procurement?
Pissing away? Or consciously providing money into the economy??
The Government is always right! (Even when it's left)
The Government is always right! (Even when it's left)
While $25M may have been a fair price for ownership of the Multicam copyright, the Army could have continued to use Multicam without any additional cost. $25M is more that twice what all the services spent on developing all the patterns since MARPAT was released. The Army couldn't afford to spend that much for pattern that may be replaced in four years.
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The Army should have just paid the Marines to let them copy Marpat as Arpat or something and adopted their desert digital as well. They would have been so much better off.
I didn't realize the Marine digis were that old.While $25M may have been a fair price for ownership of the Multicam copyright, the Army could have continued to use Multicam without any additional cost. $25M is more that twice what all the services spent on developing all the patterns since MARPAT was released. The Army couldn't afford to spend that much for pattern that may be replaced in four years.
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All the branches used to wear the same thing, there's no reason to not still do it.
Heh, yeah, what's with the black velcro on the shoulders?
A place to put those tacky Zombie cosplay patches.
While $25M may have been a fair price for ownership of the Multicam copyright, the Army could have continued to use Multicam without any additional cost. $25M is more that twice what all the services spent on developing all the patterns since MARPAT was released. The Army couldn't afford to spend that much for pattern that may be replaced in four years.
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Big Army pisses away more than that a year on various stupid bullshit.
There's certainly no good reason for them not to. Air Force and Navy sure as fuck don't need special sets of camis.
I'm all in favor of going back to the BDU's when I first joined at this point. I'm over all the uniform changes and proposals every time some one gets bite by the good idea fairy. I'll probably be out of the service by the time they start fielding them to the rest of the Army that are not deploying.
You know I watched an interesting video on how the experimental night desert camo is actually great for woodland ops.
I've always been ashamed of UCP. I've always encouraged the men in my company to wear OCP (Multicam) during field exercises. This follows a long standing tradition of troops using better uniforms in the field than in garrison duty. Guess who is wearing Multicam in this photo...
The original picture is more stark. I may have a better one that contrasts how awful the UCP is and how righteous the OCP is in comparison. My squad leader in OCP is in the foreground on the right 1/3 of the photo.
While they were walking over open ground, it was painful to see beautifully executed squad wedges with the platoons in column marred by the fact that every man in UCP ACU's looked like a bright white target.
While they were walking over open ground, it was painful to see beautifully executed squad wedges with the platoons in column marred by the fact that every man in UCP ACU's looked like a bright white target.
You know, the UCP works well here in Souther California for some reason. The chaparral plants and dirt, for whatever reason, really go well with the UCP. I still think Multicam is better, but was surprised that it 'worked' better than I'd of thought.
And really, on the photo above, the black rifles stick out the most to me on the soldiers!
And really, on the photo above, the black rifles stick out the most to me on the soldiers!
I've always been ashamed of UCP. I've always encouraged the men in my company to wear OCP (Multicam) during field exercises. This follows a long standing tradition of troops using better uniforms in the field than in garrison duty. Guess who is wearing Multicam in this photo...
What really allows them to be seen in this pic is their guns. That gunmetal black just doesn't blend. The guns should be camo'ed too.
Hey Murrica! Stay mad at our new MTP!
Lol In my eyes, that old Desert Camo is both really garish and Iconic.
Lol In my eyes, that old Desert Camo is both really garish and Iconic.
Hey Murrica! Stay mad at our new MTP!
Lol In my eyes, that old Desert Camo is both really garish and Iconic.
I love the British DPM and desert DPM.
Still better than UCP though by a laaaaaaaarge margin.
True, but are we judging how cool it looks or how effective? UCP isn't effective as the universal pattern that was it's intention, but I imagine it's still effective in areas where the DPMs are not.
Only if you test it against desert DPM in the forest or test it against woodland DPM in the desert. They did that when they tested UCP against MARPAT.