Still no ship notice on my Rattler. I'm starting to think it's a myth.
G.I. Joe Classified Series (1:12)
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The POs for DD for the upcoming waves have slipped another week (to behind Budo, if you can believe that). That tells me they really don't know when they will arrive.
Yeah, with DD, you're better off waiting for them to come in-stock and then use the almost-always-present 10% coupon. I ordered the final S7 Joe ultimate (TF Flint) plus the new wave of the reaction+ o-ring, all at 10% off last week, probably arriving today. Amazon doesn't even have them yet. DD is awesome for in-stock stuff.
Yep, I did a couple POs to try to lock in the discounted/coupon'ed rate for Budo and CG/TV. I won't bother for BACC/MW since there isn't currently a coupon anyway. I'll do like you said and snag those two as soon as they come into stock (assuming it's before AMZ). Hopefully there'll be another coupon active by then, though their regular price is only a dollar different anyway.
I'm also ready to cancel and reorder the ones on PO if they don't get those on the way pronto when they do finally come into stock. Seems like AMZ/Pulse/WM locked into expected October drop dates now. I wouldn't be surprised if DD ends up in September, if history repeats.
I'm also ready to cancel and reorder the ones on PO if they don't get those on the way pronto when they do finally come into stock. Seems like AMZ/Pulse/WM locked into expected October drop dates now. I wouldn't be surprised if DD ends up in September, if history repeats.
Apparently it's SE Week. My MASS Dev SE + Polar Bear shipped in the night to arrive tomorrow, and amazon says blue/black SE v4 will be here Thursday.
People on TFW are getting the AWE Striker already, very surprising since it's scheduled for December. I canceled one of the two I had PO'd, as it just looks weak compared to the FH version. I'm basically buying an expensive Crankcase.
Not surprising is the reaction it's getting, which is that of lukewarm oatmeal. Lot of "meh" and already hoping for 3p add-ons to make it not suck. I think it must be the same designer who did the snowcat. It's like they can't leave a good thing alone and have to fork it up with poorly implemented features and greeble nobody asked for.
Personally, the ARAH giant Speed Buggy wheels made it charming. They "realistic"-ed this thing to the point it just looks like a go-kart with guns. So boring.
People on TFW are getting the AWE Striker already, very surprising since it's scheduled for December. I canceled one of the two I had PO'd, as it just looks weak compared to the FH version. I'm basically buying an expensive Crankcase.
Not surprising is the reaction it's getting, which is that of lukewarm oatmeal. Lot of "meh" and already hoping for 3p add-ons to make it not suck. I think it must be the same designer who did the snowcat. It's like they can't leave a good thing alone and have to fork it up with poorly implemented features and greeble nobody asked for.
Personally, the ARAH giant Speed Buggy wheels made it charming. They "realistic"-ed this thing to the point it just looks like a go-kart with guns. So boring.
Totally agree. I can understand wanting to update a few traits to somewhat modernize equipment and add functionality that wasn't present in the OG version, but there's a fine line where they can easily lose the signature characteristics that made the vehicle recognizable. I think they did well with some and botched others.
Because why not, here's one man's opinion on the vehicles they've made so far:
Because why not, here's one man's opinion on the vehicles they've made so far:
- COIL bike -
- RAM - good, because they didn't mess with it too much, just added detail really.
- Trubble Bubble - good. Also mainly due to them not trying to change it much.
- HISS Tank - mostly good. IMO, the less desirable parts are the bolt-ons. At least the base vehicle remains pretty awesome.
- VAMP - good. They added some cool details, but didn't change the overall look or mission. Could they have done better with some parts? Sure. But it's better that they didn't change much.
- Ferret - good. My biggest gripe is the less off-roady tires, but in general they did well to stay pretty close to the original.
- Stinger - good. Very much in line with the VAMP. For the price, I could have stood for a little more detailing and better tires, but overall it's better to have fewer changes from the original than if they had evolved it into something that hardly resembles itself.
- Dragonfly - very good. They stuck close to the original in appearance, and simply enhanced it for the scale. They could have done slightly better IMO with some of the proportionality, but overall the vehicle is great. Some of the figs were the weakest part of the offering.
- CLAW - ok. It is cool in its own right, but simply isn't the CLAW to me. The extra landing gear and size makes it less of a winged jetpack and more of an ultralight plane. In this case, bigger is not better.
- SNAKE armor - also ok. Suffers the same problem as the CLAW. I know they said they couldn't make the armor work like it did at 4", but now it's not armor, it's a mech.
- Rattler - excellent. I think they did a very good job of keeping the essence of the Rattler fully intact while adding some cool extras. They gave it all the essentials while not bolting on extra crap that would make it something different from the original.
- AWE Striker - poor. The changes they made have changed it from the AWE Striker into something else. Just because you can enhance something doesn't mean you always should. The original design was basic but would stand up just fine today. There was no need to change it into something else, even if that something is supposedly better.
- MMS/HMS - ok. First, (gripe) why release the Cobra knock-off before the original? Also, why change the signature missiles? As with the AS, they should have just left those alone.
- Snow CAT - ok. Maybe it's their focus groups, but Hasbro is now firmly trending this way. Take something that is decent in its own right and enhance it into something larger/pricier that mildly resembles the original, but loses the essence of what it was. They are changing the SC from a basic armed arctic combat vehicle into this whole hybrid vehicle/(unprotected) troop carrier with a campsite thing. Not great or particularly welcome, obviously, from the lukewarm reception.
I think I agree with pretty much every assessment there. I'm ok with "detailing-up" stuff for Classified, like the RAM and HISS. I'm far less enthused when they start changing things because "kewl".
And I don't know why I'm hung up on wheels, but the VAMP/Stinger/AWE's biggest glaring flaws are the rims and tires. They were part of the signature look and they just fubar'd them all.
FYI, the gridiron wheels for the VAMP look great. They're big, and beefy, and arguably a little too wide, but that just makes it feel "aggressive". Installation is weird, as they just friction-fit (very tightly) over the axle cylinder (no internal split-mushroom peg), and the spinning comes in the hub. They roll fine, albeit with a little more friction than the stock wheels. Might be able to cure that with some silicone oil. Either way, it looks 1000% better on my shelf. I'll try to take a pic later.
I also bought some additional gridiron upgrades for my studio VAMP. I haven't installed them yet, but I think they'll look good too, even if they're non-traditional. Or maybe I'm falling into the same trap as hasbro. But in this case, they're removable, so if it's "too much", it'll take 5-sec to undo.
And I don't know why I'm hung up on wheels, but the VAMP/Stinger/AWE's biggest glaring flaws are the rims and tires. They were part of the signature look and they just fubar'd them all.
FYI, the gridiron wheels for the VAMP look great. They're big, and beefy, and arguably a little too wide, but that just makes it feel "aggressive". Installation is weird, as they just friction-fit (very tightly) over the axle cylinder (no internal split-mushroom peg), and the spinning comes in the hub. They roll fine, albeit with a little more friction than the stock wheels. Might be able to cure that with some silicone oil. Either way, it looks 1000% better on my shelf. I'll try to take a pic later.
I also bought some additional gridiron upgrades for my studio VAMP. I haven't installed them yet, but I think they'll look good too, even if they're non-traditional. Or maybe I'm falling into the same trap as hasbro. But in this case, they're removable, so if it's "too much", it'll take 5-sec to undo.
I might well end up with the improved wheels for my Stinger eventually, if they do a Type A slim. They look pretty awesome, but I'm not sure I'm ready for the wide tires. As you mentioned, those really do change the look.
I'm also still holding out hope for a VAMP Mk II at some point (seems like it'd be an easy money maker for H'bro, but what do I know?). I'd be tempted if GI did a decent roof/doors/missile rack add-on set for the Mk I. I don't know how I'd justify the cost of all that plus the VAMP aftermarket, but it'd definitely be tempting.
I'm also still holding out hope for a VAMP Mk II at some point (seems like it'd be an easy money maker for H'bro, but what do I know?). I'd be tempted if GI did a decent roof/doors/missile rack add-on set for the Mk I. I don't know how I'd justify the cost of all that plus the VAMP aftermarket, but it'd definitely be tempting.
I went with the Type-D wheels, and they're pretty nifty, as the A's looked a little overly greebly to me. The Type-C look thinner than the D, but the C spoke and tread patterns both look like they would be better suited to an AWE than a VAMP.
That being said, ANY of them would be a major upgrade from the stock dog-pan hubcaps. What hasbro people looked at those and "Yeah, that's the way to go. Rims that look like they were stolen off of a 1998 VW Golf. The kids will L-O-V-E it!"?!?
That being said, ANY of them would be a major upgrade from the stock dog-pan hubcaps. What hasbro people looked at those and "Yeah, that's the way to go. Rims that look like they were stolen off of a 1998 VW Golf. The kids will L-O-V-E it!"?!?
Yeah, it boils down to this haslab being a physically large and expensive answer to a question that nobody asked.
It's clearly going to fund, but even when I have twinges of FOMO about missing the figures, I ask myself where I would put a 21" long Snowcat. I get snow once a year, and getting bundled up, gathering up all my toys, all my camera equipment, take forever to set all of it up while freezing my nuts off is not an attractive prospect. And it's so large, I'd need a bigger studio to set up a properly-sized scene to photograph it indoors. The entire endeavor just doesn't work for me.
Sure, a Mauler or MOBAT would have been huge too, but at least you could photograph it outdoors more than one day a year. With the Snowcat, I'd just watch it gather dust on a shelf and constantly wonder why I bothered, thinking to myself, "This is one more reason my kids will silently curse me when I'm dead."
I'm likely going to print some Polar Battle Bears for a tiny fraction of the cost and be very happy with those instead.
It's clearly going to fund, but even when I have twinges of FOMO about missing the figures, I ask myself where I would put a 21" long Snowcat. I get snow once a year, and getting bundled up, gathering up all my toys, all my camera equipment, take forever to set all of it up while freezing my nuts off is not an attractive prospect. And it's so large, I'd need a bigger studio to set up a properly-sized scene to photograph it indoors. The entire endeavor just doesn't work for me.
Sure, a Mauler or MOBAT would have been huge too, but at least you could photograph it outdoors more than one day a year. With the Snowcat, I'd just watch it gather dust on a shelf and constantly wonder why I bothered, thinking to myself, "This is one more reason my kids will silently curse me when I'm dead."
I'm likely going to print some Polar Battle Bears for a tiny fraction of the cost and be very happy with those instead.
The Rattler has arrived. Man, it’s big and heavy. Now I need to find the time to assemble it and then find somewhere to display it. The quest for Wild Weasel continues, and may for some time.
And... I found a minute. Man, what a beautiful offering of my absolute favorite as a kid! Huge, chunky and hits all the nostalgia spots just right. Just put together as the base model for now. We'll see if I get inspired to decorate it a bit more when I finally get ahold of a Wild Weasel and figure out a good gunner. Oh, and patches!!! 
Less than a week left on the SC Haslab and still not funded. At least they are close enough now to all but ensure it will be, that is unless a bunch of people drop out, knowing that the tiers are unlikely to be unlocked. It's kind of a paradox when the tiers aren't all that desirable, but the main offering is also not worth the price without them (some would argue even with them).
I think they tried to shoot the moon by pricing it the same as the Rattler. They should have gone with the DF's $275 price point to at least acknowledge the niche/lower tier vehicle offered this time. I think that would have helped, particularly had they not had the other Joe CS sets (Cold Slither, AWE Striker, CLAW, etc.) dropping at the same time.
And then there is the lack of support for the niche with anything else arctic besides a simple name drop of Iceberg. Seriously? There's more maritime figures in the line now than arctic, and that's including the throwaway unobtainium arctic Storm Shadow and BAT. It doesn't make much sense at all, and never did.
It's a shame that they frittered away all the momentum they had from the previous three with this substandard offering. To me, everything points to corporate BS where they were headed down the line of offering a mainline tank (reference Steeler and SF) until the focus group got swayed by whoever was pushing the SC. And I really think someone with serious sway was pushing it, based on the level of development we see with all its pieces and parts so early.
Part of me wishes they didn't fund at all so they might do better next time as well as offer a basic mainline SC. But, sadly, corp-think hardly ever sees the error of its ways. It usually just turns into a blame game, and when particularly toxic, they blame the fans for "not supporting the line." If we hear "you have to buy the crappy offerings to get the good ones!" I'll know we are fully on the downslope.
Sorry to be negative, but that's pretty much all I am seeing from the majority of youtube videos on the topic, and the numbers support that opinion, so I think I speak with the majority. Do better, Hasbro...
I think they tried to shoot the moon by pricing it the same as the Rattler. They should have gone with the DF's $275 price point to at least acknowledge the niche/lower tier vehicle offered this time. I think that would have helped, particularly had they not had the other Joe CS sets (Cold Slither, AWE Striker, CLAW, etc.) dropping at the same time.
And then there is the lack of support for the niche with anything else arctic besides a simple name drop of Iceberg. Seriously? There's more maritime figures in the line now than arctic, and that's including the throwaway unobtainium arctic Storm Shadow and BAT. It doesn't make much sense at all, and never did.
It's a shame that they frittered away all the momentum they had from the previous three with this substandard offering. To me, everything points to corporate BS where they were headed down the line of offering a mainline tank (reference Steeler and SF) until the focus group got swayed by whoever was pushing the SC. And I really think someone with serious sway was pushing it, based on the level of development we see with all its pieces and parts so early.
Part of me wishes they didn't fund at all so they might do better next time as well as offer a basic mainline SC. But, sadly, corp-think hardly ever sees the error of its ways. It usually just turns into a blame game, and when particularly toxic, they blame the fans for "not supporting the line." If we hear "you have to buy the crappy offerings to get the good ones!" I'll know we are fully on the downslope.
Sorry to be negative, but that's pretty much all I am seeing from the majority of youtube videos on the topic, and the numbers support that opinion, so I think I speak with the majority. Do better, Hasbro...
Yeah, aside from the cheerleaders, I think the universal opinion, even among backers, is that this is the weakest Classified Haslab by a longshot. Some think it's marginally worth it, others don't, but the enthusiasm just isn't there either way.
I think they couldn't reduce the price because this thing is so damn massive. It dwarfs the HISS. I have started calling it the RoidCat. I think they said, "hey, we've got a $150 vehicle that we need to turn into a haslab, so make it bigger."... and they did, to an extreme degree. Proportionally, it is so much larger than the original, which was only about 25% larger than a VAMP. But they couldn't make it smaller and justify the price-point to fandom for a C-list vehicle.
"I know, let's make it part snow track, part tank, part APC, and part Food Network. And then offer a tier with a one-walled arctic tent so people can pretend that Joe is... errr... freezing to death? And make sure it has a built-in.... ice chest, so that their drinks stay cold... in the arctic? THAT will make it worth $325!"
The lack of other Snow-stuff in the pipeline is criminally negligent marketing. Even if the SnowCat was a last-minute choice for the haslab, long after the '25 mainline was set, they could still do some name-reveals or hint that other complementary stuff is coming in '26. The complete obliviousness of the team in terms of understanding how people view and collect/play/photograph this stuff is staggering.
I really like the new LJ sculpt, and the Flint would be awesome as both Flint and as a pre-tool for all kinds of other Snow-themed Joes. I would love that. I just don't want the 21" beast I have to order to get them. I have no doubt, if it somehow makes an unexpected surge in the next week and unlocks Flint at the end, I'll have to fight back the FOMO. I just don't want a RoidCat gathering dust on my shelves, but it might still be cheaper to order it and sell later just to get the figures. Joe Haslabs tend to hold value, but this one is far less desirable than the others, so who knows.
The latest pics definitely make it look better than any of the previous shots, but after I get past the good photography and lighting, I'm still left with a dud of an oversized vehicle and some ten-cent plastic food. Part of my brain is trying to convince me that I can make some pretty comical shots using the boyscout jamboree set pieces, but damn, those would be expensive shots.
No matter what, like you, I have no faith that the brand will learn any lessons about doing better. They'll conclude that Joe support is flagging and that future haslabs are not warranted or should be approached with caution. There is no self-reflection, as that would admit failure, something corporate culture is allergic to.
Some are saying that the next haslab will be reluctant to bump the price-point for an A-list vehicle like a Moray, and so since it's Cobra's turn, we should expect a Thunder Machine... a vehicle that is based on a Trans-Am but will end up being the size of a school bus.
I think they couldn't reduce the price because this thing is so damn massive. It dwarfs the HISS. I have started calling it the RoidCat. I think they said, "hey, we've got a $150 vehicle that we need to turn into a haslab, so make it bigger."... and they did, to an extreme degree. Proportionally, it is so much larger than the original, which was only about 25% larger than a VAMP. But they couldn't make it smaller and justify the price-point to fandom for a C-list vehicle.
"I know, let's make it part snow track, part tank, part APC, and part Food Network. And then offer a tier with a one-walled arctic tent so people can pretend that Joe is... errr... freezing to death? And make sure it has a built-in.... ice chest, so that their drinks stay cold... in the arctic? THAT will make it worth $325!"
The lack of other Snow-stuff in the pipeline is criminally negligent marketing. Even if the SnowCat was a last-minute choice for the haslab, long after the '25 mainline was set, they could still do some name-reveals or hint that other complementary stuff is coming in '26. The complete obliviousness of the team in terms of understanding how people view and collect/play/photograph this stuff is staggering.
I really like the new LJ sculpt, and the Flint would be awesome as both Flint and as a pre-tool for all kinds of other Snow-themed Joes. I would love that. I just don't want the 21" beast I have to order to get them. I have no doubt, if it somehow makes an unexpected surge in the next week and unlocks Flint at the end, I'll have to fight back the FOMO. I just don't want a RoidCat gathering dust on my shelves, but it might still be cheaper to order it and sell later just to get the figures. Joe Haslabs tend to hold value, but this one is far less desirable than the others, so who knows.
The latest pics definitely make it look better than any of the previous shots, but after I get past the good photography and lighting, I'm still left with a dud of an oversized vehicle and some ten-cent plastic food. Part of my brain is trying to convince me that I can make some pretty comical shots using the boyscout jamboree set pieces, but damn, those would be expensive shots.
No matter what, like you, I have no faith that the brand will learn any lessons about doing better. They'll conclude that Joe support is flagging and that future haslabs are not warranted or should be approached with caution. There is no self-reflection, as that would admit failure, something corporate culture is allergic to.
Some are saying that the next haslab will be reluctant to bump the price-point for an A-list vehicle like a Moray, and so since it's Cobra's turn, we should expect a Thunder Machine... a vehicle that is based on a Trans-Am but will end up being the size of a school bus.
All so very true. The ultimate result is the loss of the confidence of the fandom that the good Haslabs had built. I don't see another episode like this one funding next time.
Momentum is picking back up a little as the SC closes in on funding, so today will be the day, followed by the inevitable double stacking by those hoping to fund theirs by selling additional ones. That will likely get LJ funded. At this point, I have little confidence the tent/camping stuff will get it past that, let alone get Flint funded.
Here's hoping for a reasonable course correction and a better offering next year.
Momentum is picking back up a little as the SC closes in on funding, so today will be the day, followed by the inevitable double stacking by those hoping to fund theirs by selling additional ones. That will likely get LJ funded. At this point, I have little confidence the tent/camping stuff will get it past that, let alone get Flint funded.
Here's hoping for a reasonable course correction and a better offering next year.
And... funded. Finally. At least they crossed that hurdle, and kept their funding record intact. The only question now is the momentum and trajectory of this one's final week bump.
For me, if Flint doesn't unlock, then the smart play is easily waiting and buying the figures later... if ever (LJ is pretty useless without Flint). If all three figures fund, then it becomes trickier, as smart money is shelling out for the whole package and unloading the vehicle.... but I hate the idea of supporting this shitty campaign.
I can't really justify getting any of this one. I don't need anything cartoon accurate. No ginormous SC, no winterized but not arctic camo'ed Joes and no bivouac/campsite playset. I only need one version of Flint and LJ (my custom made ones from parts of the two versions we've gotten), which I'll fully have once I harvest the better parts of retro Flint in the aftermarket.
Like many, I am a little salty that we will never get that proper $150 normal-sized SC, thanks to this Haslab. There's no chance they tool out the process to make a decent proportional mainline one, even as a "retro" offering. This was their one chance, and they eliminated any possibility for me to want one. Like you mentioned, even if I thought it was reasonably priced, where the heck would I put it?
It was easy for me to pass on it, almost from day one, and drove me even more toward the Rattler, knowing I wasn't going to try to find cash for something else big and cool this year. So, once I have WW, I'll probably see if I can get ahold of a DF and WB for something close to reasonable, should a few more extra bucks make it into my pocket before the next Haslab.
I've about settled in with the fact that the Rattler (and probably eventually the DF) will ultimately unseat my 1:18 Apache and Super Cobra, hung from the ceiling above my Joe display, and I'm okay with it. They may even help fund the DF.
The CS has fully invaded and occupies that corner of my office now anyway.
Like many, I am a little salty that we will never get that proper $150 normal-sized SC, thanks to this Haslab. There's no chance they tool out the process to make a decent proportional mainline one, even as a "retro" offering. This was their one chance, and they eliminated any possibility for me to want one. Like you mentioned, even if I thought it was reasonably priced, where the heck would I put it?
It was easy for me to pass on it, almost from day one, and drove me even more toward the Rattler, knowing I wasn't going to try to find cash for something else big and cool this year. So, once I have WW, I'll probably see if I can get ahold of a DF and WB for something close to reasonable, should a few more extra bucks make it into my pocket before the next Haslab.
I've about settled in with the fact that the Rattler (and probably eventually the DF) will ultimately unseat my 1:18 Apache and Super Cobra, hung from the ceiling above my Joe display, and I'm okay with it. They may even help fund the DF.
The CS has fully invaded and occupies that corner of my office now anyway.
I like the snow-themed Joes. I don't care if they're in arctic camo or just olive drab pants with brown parkas. A lot of their missions aren't covert, more about "beat the enemy to the objective", so in that regard, the colors are fine.
This is my mental image of what Joes would be wearing in the snow:
Greens, browns, whites, blacks... whatever.
It would be a hard pass if we got something ultra-modern like this:
Hell no. These are Joes in the snow, not some super arctic-specific commando squad. I mean, that would be a choice, but definitely not for me.
Funny thing is, as a kid, not once did I ever equate Stalker v2 that came with the kayak to the Marvel issue 2. His neon green pants with mud-camo were so distracting, that it didn't cross my mind that they might be homaging the comic. And the figure had no hood, also a very specific feature.
All that being said, No Flint = No Backing. Someone suggested that moving Flint to the first tier with LJ would likely juice the final tally.... probably beyond the 14k mark that Flint currently requires, but with Flint in question, it likely won't get there. Oh the irony. This is the fate of the mediocre campaign.
This is my mental image of what Joes would be wearing in the snow:
Greens, browns, whites, blacks... whatever.
It would be a hard pass if we got something ultra-modern like this:
Hell no. These are Joes in the snow, not some super arctic-specific commando squad. I mean, that would be a choice, but definitely not for me.
Funny thing is, as a kid, not once did I ever equate Stalker v2 that came with the kayak to the Marvel issue 2. His neon green pants with mud-camo were so distracting, that it didn't cross my mind that they might be homaging the comic. And the figure had no hood, also a very specific feature.
All that being said, No Flint = No Backing. Someone suggested that moving Flint to the first tier with LJ would likely juice the final tally.... probably beyond the 14k mark that Flint currently requires, but with Flint in question, it likely won't get there. Oh the irony. This is the fate of the mediocre campaign.
I got my Rattler gunner replacement figured out. I saw that EE has non-mint Trubble Bubbles for $42. Pretty good deal. I needed to replace my cancelled Walmart PO for BACC and MW anyway so I added those to get up to free shipping. I will use the full face covered TV that comes with the TB as my Rat gunner, and will use the retro TV (without the weird black arms) as the TB pilot, since he’s the classic pilot anyway. Win win.
But… then it seams BACC (and apparently blue/gray SE and MB) has actually arrived (for shipping at least) at WM. Weird. Since I still had some gift card credit left from the cancelled POs, I went ahead and ordered him. He’s supposed to arrive on Monday. Stay tuned. If he does arrive, I’ll return the EE one to WM once it arrives, in October(?).
But… then it seams BACC (and apparently blue/gray SE and MB) has actually arrived (for shipping at least) at WM. Weird. Since I still had some gift card credit left from the cancelled POs, I went ahead and ordered him. He’s supposed to arrive on Monday. Stay tuned. If he does arrive, I’ll return the EE one to WM once it arrives, in October(?).
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It's always fun trying to solve the puzzle that Hasbro leaves us with. Filling in the gaps in a way that suits us is always a challenge.
My SE v4 got delayed to friday... and then delayed to monday. I'm starting to think AMZ doesn't actually have them.
My SE v4 got delayed to friday... and then delayed to monday. I'm starting to think AMZ doesn't actually have them.
I’m getting the feeling that Hasbro is spreading the stock out between retailers. Seems that BBTS has retro CG and TV in stock now. AMZ has SE with the polar bear. WM has BACC, MB & colorful SE. Nothing new yet for EE or DD that I’ve seen, but maybe they’re next. 
Yeah, BBTS had retro Flint too, but he sold out pretty quickly. I thought about switching my retro orders, but in the end, it wasn't worth the trouble. I'll get them eventually... but if DD gets them and also has a 10% discount or more, that might tempt me to rearrange.
Opened Law and Order, and it's a solid set. I wasn't a huge fan of the duo originally, as doing MP guard-duty always seemed like a waste for a Joe... why can't that be some green-shirts? But the figure is well-done. For now I'm just leaving his helmet on, obscuring his obviously incorrect hair color. His accessories are great, Order is a good dog, and Law comes with a lot of new hands to pet the dog, point, and some other hand-commands I'm not familiar with.
Only a couple of small complaints beyond the hair color. He comes with handcuffs that fit in his belt... but they're ultra stiff and feel like they're going to break when you fold them in half. And the pouch is open on one end, so the stiff cuffs simply won't stay in there. Also, he comes with a knife... with zero sheaths. Where in the devil is the knife supposed to store?! I slipped it into the back edge of Order's vest so Law can pull it out on the sly... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I also opened SE and the mean polar bear. The bear is well-done, no complaints other than the unnecessary scars. It's a giant bear, he's scary enough without making him look like he also gets in bar fights. SE has both the red MASS bell jar and the MASS element transport canister (sufficiently Classified-ified, of course... I'm stunned it doesn't have tattoos). It's the same figure as retro SE, just in blue... but it works. I prefer him with the normal hands, not the radioactive pink, but overall it's about as toony as classified will ever get. I put him on the shelf right between my '82 and '83 groupings, right next to Snowjob and Tripwire, and they definitely radiate nostalgia together. He's also going to look pretty great with classified Timber.
Opened Law and Order, and it's a solid set. I wasn't a huge fan of the duo originally, as doing MP guard-duty always seemed like a waste for a Joe... why can't that be some green-shirts? But the figure is well-done. For now I'm just leaving his helmet on, obscuring his obviously incorrect hair color. His accessories are great, Order is a good dog, and Law comes with a lot of new hands to pet the dog, point, and some other hand-commands I'm not familiar with.
Only a couple of small complaints beyond the hair color. He comes with handcuffs that fit in his belt... but they're ultra stiff and feel like they're going to break when you fold them in half. And the pouch is open on one end, so the stiff cuffs simply won't stay in there. Also, he comes with a knife... with zero sheaths. Where in the devil is the knife supposed to store?! I slipped it into the back edge of Order's vest so Law can pull it out on the sly... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I also opened SE and the mean polar bear. The bear is well-done, no complaints other than the unnecessary scars. It's a giant bear, he's scary enough without making him look like he also gets in bar fights. SE has both the red MASS bell jar and the MASS element transport canister (sufficiently Classified-ified, of course... I'm stunned it doesn't have tattoos). It's the same figure as retro SE, just in blue... but it works. I prefer him with the normal hands, not the radioactive pink, but overall it's about as toony as classified will ever get. I put him on the shelf right between my '82 and '83 groupings, right next to Snowjob and Tripwire, and they definitely radiate nostalgia together. He's also going to look pretty great with classified Timber.
Well, color me a little impressed. I got the shipping notice for BACC from WM yesterday and looked up the tracking. Supposed to arrive by 8pm tonight by FedEx.
I'm also a little baffled as to why WM didn't just fulfill that part of my PO since he was only a little behind their projected fulfillment date. They could have delayed it by that much, sent BACC and then just delayed MW until he arrives. Delivery of BACC would have locked me into waiting for MW, unless I wanted to go back and pay for shipping.
Instead they straight up cancelled it, driving me to PO them somewhere else. In the end, they'll be losing those sales, while still having at least one (possibly both, if they suddenly get MW as well) of them arrive before EE gets them.
I know that's small potatoes for them, but it's symptomatic of how the whole line is going for them, forever behind the game (even when they are not actually) and stuck with unsold leftovers.
I'm also a little baffled as to why WM didn't just fulfill that part of my PO since he was only a little behind their projected fulfillment date. They could have delayed it by that much, sent BACC and then just delayed MW until he arrives. Delivery of BACC would have locked me into waiting for MW, unless I wanted to go back and pay for shipping.
Instead they straight up cancelled it, driving me to PO them somewhere else. In the end, they'll be losing those sales, while still having at least one (possibly both, if they suddenly get MW as well) of them arrive before EE gets them.
I know that's small potatoes for them, but it's symptomatic of how the whole line is going for them, forever behind the game (even when they are not actually) and stuck with unsold leftovers.
Pulse is the one hemorrhaging orders from me. I canceled the SnowCat, one AWE, and after getting copies from AMZ, I ordered the studio copy of L&O, SE w/ bear, and SEv4 from AMZ and canceled the pulse ones. And I broke down and ordered retro CG and TV from BBTS (in addition to the split-orders I have at AMZ). Now I'm wishing I'd done the same with Flint when they still had him. But all of those are orders Hasbro Pulse just lost. In addition to the Footloose/Blowtorch wave that I cancelled with Pulse last month and ordered from DD instead.
They charge you to be a member and then consistently get their product dead last. If not for early access to exclusives, I'd never bother with them.
I'd cancel more stuff with them, but most of my remaining orders with them are Pulse-Only or Target exclusives that they sell a small number of... b/c I'll never see them at Target. I'm mostly salty that my Rattler is in permanent limbo, constantly in a state of processing but never shipping. And these clowns want me to order a $325 garbage truck wearing a SnowCat halloween costume when they can't ship me last year's haslab. Screw that.
EDIT: Just got a DD coupon ("BEACH") for 15% off in-stock stuff, but it's only good through Wednesday. Hope they get something good in-stock by then.
They charge you to be a member and then consistently get their product dead last. If not for early access to exclusives, I'd never bother with them.
I'd cancel more stuff with them, but most of my remaining orders with them are Pulse-Only or Target exclusives that they sell a small number of... b/c I'll never see them at Target. I'm mostly salty that my Rattler is in permanent limbo, constantly in a state of processing but never shipping. And these clowns want me to order a $325 garbage truck wearing a SnowCat halloween costume when they can't ship me last year's haslab. Screw that.
EDIT: Just got a DD coupon ("BEACH") for 15% off in-stock stuff, but it's only good through Wednesday. Hope they get something good in-stock by then.
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Yeah, you'd think the membership-based service of Pulse would do a better job hooking up its members. Besides first access to POs and exclusives, you'd think they would be prioritized for absolutely everything - like ensuring new product came to them before all the other retailers, priority delivery of Haslabs in all cases and ensuring that anything exclusive had plenty of PO capacity to ensure it never runs out during the early access window for members. I'm confident I have heard multiple reports of failures on all counts there.
I am generally grateful that, with the possible retroactive exception of the VAMP (by my choice mostly), there haven't been any exclusives that I missed out on. IIRC, Snow Job was the only other exclusive that I wanted, and I got him no problem. They have kept the rest primarily limited to items that only the truly hardcore completists must have, which is how it should be.
So I've never seen the utility of the membership for my level of collecting. The times I have ordered from Pulse, I've either exceeded the free shipping window anyway, or sucked it up and paid the shipping cost (I believer SJ was the only time that happened, and it was with a gift card anyway).
Regarding DD, I wouldn't anticipate being able to use the discount code this week. They just pushed the PO for BACC, MW, CG, TV and company out to the 26th. Budo is still the 22nd, for now. But, you never know, we might get surprised, like with BACC at WM. I'm already PO'ed up on everything I want through the next wave of CS and retro, so no additional discounts for me, but I'd still love to get them early anyway!
I am generally grateful that, with the possible retroactive exception of the VAMP (by my choice mostly), there haven't been any exclusives that I missed out on. IIRC, Snow Job was the only other exclusive that I wanted, and I got him no problem. They have kept the rest primarily limited to items that only the truly hardcore completists must have, which is how it should be.
So I've never seen the utility of the membership for my level of collecting. The times I have ordered from Pulse, I've either exceeded the free shipping window anyway, or sucked it up and paid the shipping cost (I believer SJ was the only time that happened, and it was with a gift card anyway
).Regarding DD, I wouldn't anticipate being able to use the discount code this week. They just pushed the PO for BACC, MW, CG, TV and company out to the 26th. Budo is still the 22nd, for now. But, you never know, we might get surprised, like with BACC at WM. I'm already PO'ed up on everything I want through the next wave of CS and retro, so no additional discounts for me, but I'd still love to get them early anyway!
SEv4 came in today... and I have to say, he's incredibly unremarkable. If I didn't know who the character was, I would *swear* it was a marvel legends figure, as he's nothing but a plain buck colored blue and black with a vest and some pouches. Other than some light detailing on the crotch (he does have a fly), you'd never know he had on clothes. Is he wearing spandex? Has SE joined the X-Men? While I'm sure it's unique, his chest under the vest looks just like the Bucky-Cap ML buck.... just colored sculpted muscles.
Nothing wrong with the figure per-se, but it's a big pile of "meh". Probably the worst figure in the line, aside from the artic Storm Shadow that had horrible articulation. I guess that speaks to how good the line has been in general if one of the worst figures isn't that bad... but he's truly just uninspired. I would swear he's a filler if he didn't look to have almost all new parts.
The back of the box has him standing on a rocky peak with a bunch of FANGs coming at him in the distance. Wonder if that's a hint that we'll be getting a little suicide chopper in '26?
Nothing wrong with the figure per-se, but it's a big pile of "meh". Probably the worst figure in the line, aside from the artic Storm Shadow that had horrible articulation. I guess that speaks to how good the line has been in general if one of the worst figures isn't that bad... but he's truly just uninspired. I would swear he's a filler if he didn't look to have almost all new parts.
The back of the box has him standing on a rocky peak with a bunch of FANGs coming at him in the distance. Wonder if that's a hint that we'll be getting a little suicide chopper in '26?
Seems like they tried to capture the time period he was from, but maybe without spending too much. By '91, Joe had moved away from conventional military toward their final destination of neon/eco/ninja/street-fighter. Less battle dress uniform and more costume. While he may not be the best detailed or kitted figure, at least they didn't try to make a spring-loaded grapple launcher for him.
On the topic of kits and details, I'm starting to notice a slight negative trend with some figures. Some of the vests/suspenders/kits seem to have been "dumbed down" a little, at least compared to other offerings - with fewer color apps, less 3 dimensional form and generally less detail.
The ones I've noticed so far are mostly retros. Cobra Trooper, Stalker and even Beach Head (his vest primarily) come to mind. When I've seen them in person, I've noticed them as having less color and detail in their kits than their CS version. Maybe it's intentional, for the sake of similarity to the vintage, but it makes me wonder if we are seeing work from different (less capable) factories or something.
I see that SE in the promo pics and his vest seems to be very "just gray." Is it just me, or does it seem like Hasbro is cutting corners on some of the figs, while others still wow you with all the detailed molding and paint apps? I hope it's not a sign of things to come. It certainly doesn't look it from the figs in the pipeline, so maybe it's just select figs?
On the topic of kits and details, I'm starting to notice a slight negative trend with some figures. Some of the vests/suspenders/kits seem to have been "dumbed down" a little, at least compared to other offerings - with fewer color apps, less 3 dimensional form and generally less detail.
The ones I've noticed so far are mostly retros. Cobra Trooper, Stalker and even Beach Head (his vest primarily) come to mind. When I've seen them in person, I've noticed them as having less color and detail in their kits than their CS version. Maybe it's intentional, for the sake of similarity to the vintage, but it makes me wonder if we are seeing work from different (less capable) factories or something.
I see that SE in the promo pics and his vest seems to be very "just gray." Is it just me, or does it seem like Hasbro is cutting corners on some of the figs, while others still wow you with all the detailed molding and paint apps? I hope it's not a sign of things to come. It certainly doesn't look it from the figs in the pipeline, so maybe it's just select figs?
I guess his deco is reasonably faithful to the original figure, leg pouches notwithstanding. But it's a rare case where I would have been ok with them Classified-ing him up, as the spandex look makes no sense. Making the pants black fatigues would have at least given him some veneer of *military*.
I think hasbro in general is going through a major cost-cutting initiative, so I have no doubt that Joe wave budgets are getting squeezed. ML and SWB are to the point that they have scant few accessories. And when they do get some, it's now in the form of a $50-60 "Maximum" figure, i.e. a $25 figure with $5 worth of stuff that will end up in the parts bin. As much as it may seem they're cutting corners on Joe, I think it's far worse on the licensed properties, as they basically had far less margin to start with.
In better news, my Rattler got a tracking number. Still hasn't gone anywhere, but I have a label
I think hasbro in general is going through a major cost-cutting initiative, so I have no doubt that Joe wave budgets are getting squeezed. ML and SWB are to the point that they have scant few accessories. And when they do get some, it's now in the form of a $50-60 "Maximum" figure, i.e. a $25 figure with $5 worth of stuff that will end up in the parts bin. As much as it may seem they're cutting corners on Joe, I think it's far worse on the licensed properties, as they basically had far less margin to start with.
In better news, my Rattler got a tracking number. Still hasn't gone anywhere, but I have a label
Your Rattler will be there before you know it! More Rattlers getting to people is good news over here too, as more supply means more Wild Weasels out there as well.
We are a little spoiled to be at/near the peak of the CS, while the other lines have waned or gotten prohibitively expensive. And the future still looks solid with lots of (mostly good) product. Hopefully they will maintain quality at least until all the critical figs get their chance. And there’s not much left to do!
We are a little spoiled to be at/near the peak of the CS, while the other lines have waned or gotten prohibitively expensive. And the future still looks solid with lots of (mostly good) product. Hopefully they will maintain quality at least until all the critical figs get their chance. And there’s not much left to do!
Yeah, they're going to fill most of the '82-'86 rosters in the next 12-18 months. After that, I'm sure there will be a healthy mix of late-stage ARAH, ME, new stuff, sunbow decos and redo's of older sculpts that look dated. And like anyone with a plastic crack addiction, I'll be onboard for a good chunk of it (the chunk that isn't stupid or neon).
But in general, Joe's going to have the same problem that TF experiences, and that is the fragmentation of the fandom as you get further and further from the early ARAH years. Sure there are randos that like DiC, Eco-Ninja-DEF, JVC, VVV, etc (I've even seen people getting nostalgic over the "new" designs in 25th-50th stuff)... but none of those eras individually have enough juice to keep the line going.
Some TF fans love Beast Wars, Animated, Bayverse or whatever, but they simply don't have the critical mass to be viable toylines like G1 stuff does (and it makes them angry!). Joe will get into the same territory as they start sprinkling in all the other eras. They'll start seeing diminishing returns, more peg warmers, full waves of 90's stuff going to Ollies, followed by a revamp/revival of the good old ARAH. This is the way, and TF has shown us the blueprint many times over.
Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if Joe didn't stay true to its historical trends and change scales again in 2-3 years. I could see them doing 2-2.5" figures (with far more articulation than Sigma6, i.e. less-chibi Mega-style figures), more vehicles/playsets, etc. It would take the franchise into a vehicle era, much like ARAH did after the barbie-sized Joes started flagging.
But in general, Joe's going to have the same problem that TF experiences, and that is the fragmentation of the fandom as you get further and further from the early ARAH years. Sure there are randos that like DiC, Eco-Ninja-DEF, JVC, VVV, etc (I've even seen people getting nostalgic over the "new" designs in 25th-50th stuff)... but none of those eras individually have enough juice to keep the line going.
Some TF fans love Beast Wars, Animated, Bayverse or whatever, but they simply don't have the critical mass to be viable toylines like G1 stuff does (and it makes them angry!). Joe will get into the same territory as they start sprinkling in all the other eras. They'll start seeing diminishing returns, more peg warmers, full waves of 90's stuff going to Ollies, followed by a revamp/revival of the good old ARAH. This is the way, and TF has shown us the blueprint many times over.
Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if Joe didn't stay true to its historical trends and change scales again in 2-3 years. I could see them doing 2-2.5" figures (with far more articulation than Sigma6, i.e. less-chibi Mega-style figures), more vehicles/playsets, etc. It would take the franchise into a vehicle era, much like ARAH did after the barbie-sized Joes started flagging.
I could see that. Hopefully Hasbro recognizes that Joe has overperformed this time as well as with the 25th/ROC/POC before it and keeps making Joe content in different forms throughout our lifetime. It's crazy how many scales they have used already over the last 40 years! Why not one more!
I could definitely go for some smaller scale vehicles, though, as usual, I have no clue where I'd put them. I'd probably have to unseat some generic modern(ish) military content... again.
I liked the concept of S6 and had picked up a couple of the larger figs and a couple vehicles in the smaller scale. My kids were still little at the time and I was late to notice them, so I didn't get much. There also wasn't all that much to be had during its short lifespan, and having two scales running concurrently was weird.
A focused, vehicle-driven ARAH-era version of the smaller scale (1:35ish?) could be epic, if well detailed. It would be a lot like the SW Squadron series, but at what, about double the scale or so? Seems like they could do that with a decent amount of detail, but still be manageable to hoard. If done well, I'd be in for sure.
I could definitely go for some smaller scale vehicles, though, as usual, I have no clue where I'd put them. I'd probably have to unseat some generic modern(ish) military content... again.
I liked the concept of S6 and had picked up a couple of the larger figs and a couple vehicles in the smaller scale. My kids were still little at the time and I was late to notice them, so I didn't get much. There also wasn't all that much to be had during its short lifespan, and having two scales running concurrently was weird.
A focused, vehicle-driven ARAH-era version of the smaller scale (1:35ish?) could be epic, if well detailed. It would be a lot like the SW Squadron series, but at what, about double the scale or so? Seems like they could do that with a decent amount of detail, but still be manageable to hoard. If done well, I'd be in for sure.
I was going to open up BACC tonight, but when I opened the WM envelope (because why package your merchandise in a way that ensures it reaches its destination fully intact?), the top half of the box is totally mashed. Not that I really care that much about the boxes, but, as if I needed a reason, it's a perfectly good reason to simply return it at the store.
It kinda works out, because it appears the reason EE was taking their sweet time on sending my TB/TV is that they are now processing the BACC I had ordered from there as well (presumably to ship with it to save them some shipping $$), and now just MW shows as still awaiting arrival.
Having gotten a look at BACC in the package, I know I'm going to love it, so waiting another week or whatever isn't too big a deal, and I have every reason to return the WM one in its poor condition. Original CC will now join original SS hidden away at the back of the display. I'm hoping eventually silver Destro will join them when IG Destro finally gets made.
While I was on EE's site today, I couldn't help pre-ordering a Dial-Tone with what I had left on the gift card. His expected arrival is this month, so presumably he'll be on the way relatively soon as well. Maybe he and MW can ship together if he shows up early too.
It kinda works out, because it appears the reason EE was taking their sweet time on sending my TB/TV is that they are now processing the BACC I had ordered from there as well (presumably to ship with it to save them some shipping $$), and now just MW shows as still awaiting arrival.
Having gotten a look at BACC in the package, I know I'm going to love it, so waiting another week or whatever isn't too big a deal, and I have every reason to return the WM one in its poor condition. Original CC will now join original SS hidden away at the back of the display. I'm hoping eventually silver Destro will join them when IG Destro finally gets made.
While I was on EE's site today, I couldn't help pre-ordering a Dial-Tone with what I had left on the gift card. His expected arrival is this month, so presumably he'll be on the way relatively soon as well. Maybe he and MW can ship together if he shows up early too.
I'm not proud of myself, but FOMO got me and I backed the stupid SnowCat again. So weak. I'm still mostly interested in the figures, definitely hoping that it has a miracle surge and unlocks Flint. But if the vehicle is a dud, I can still sell it and have far less in the figures than if I bought them loose.
It helps that in today's livestream, they heavily hinted at a stripped-down arctic HISS, so at least it has something to oppose it. If we get a critical mass of snow-themed stuff, I can at least justify having an arctic setup in the studio, but not worth the space and effort for one vehicle.
Or maybe it's just that my fanboy-rage has subsided now that my Rattler is moving through the FedEx system, due for Monday delivery. Regardless, I don't like this entire system of production, and I don't understand the counter-intuitive Haslab selection and design process. It all feels like a system designed to address a fundamental lack of faith in their brand and products. I'm sure they would say that we're getting products that otherwise wouldn't be possible, but I just want to shake them and tell them to grow a pair.
It helps that in today's livestream, they heavily hinted at a stripped-down arctic HISS, so at least it has something to oppose it. If we get a critical mass of snow-themed stuff, I can at least justify having an arctic setup in the studio, but not worth the space and effort for one vehicle.
Or maybe it's just that my fanboy-rage has subsided now that my Rattler is moving through the FedEx system, due for Monday delivery. Regardless, I don't like this entire system of production, and I don't understand the counter-intuitive Haslab selection and design process. It all feels like a system designed to address a fundamental lack of faith in their brand and products. I'm sure they would say that we're getting products that otherwise wouldn't be possible, but I just want to shake them and tell them to grow a pair.
Ah, the collector's fomo walk of shame, something akin to that cheerleader that keeps going back and servicing the jock, who treats her like crap around his friends, but promises he will only love her and her alone forever... We've all been there.
But you're right. It's actually the lower number of these to be made that will drive up the cost so you can recoup what you spend selling just the SC, should you choose to do so. In the end, if it goes that way, you can just go get a shower to remove that dirty feeling after the transaction is sealed, and someone has paid you at least $100 extra due to waiting, or changing their mind to late. Not that I know anyone like that...
Hopefully, we will make it to Flint in the next 9 hours, though I still have my doubts. I have been pulling for it not to, as a lesson to Hasbro, but, for your sake, here's hoping they just barely squeak across the line. Though I'm not sure they would learn anything from a close call.
I'm living through the other side of the Haslab dance right now, making "low ball" offers for the Rattler and now WW, for only $50 - $75 over cost, just to have them counter. It's my own fault for not having enough extra cash back during the campaign to justify getting it then, but I'll never feel guilty for only offering what I do.
I really, really want to see my Rat piloted by its uber-iconic jockey, but I am willing to play the long game, especially as supply continues to rise, and purchased prices slowly trend my way. If things start to turn the other way and supply starts to dry up, I might have to do something desperate...
We've all been there.But you're right. It's actually the lower number of these to be made that will drive up the cost so you can recoup what you spend selling just the SC, should you choose to do so. In the end, if it goes that way, you can just go get a shower to remove that dirty feeling after the transaction is sealed, and someone has paid you at least $100 extra due to waiting, or changing their mind to late. Not that I know anyone like that...
Hopefully, we will make it to Flint in the next 9 hours, though I still have my doubts. I have been pulling for it not to, as a lesson to Hasbro, but, for your sake, here's hoping they just barely squeak across the line. Though I'm not sure they would learn anything from a close call.
I'm living through the other side of the Haslab dance right now, making "low ball" offers for the Rattler and now WW, for only $50 - $75 over cost, just to have them counter. It's my own fault for not having enough extra cash back during the campaign to justify getting it then, but I'll never feel guilty for only offering what I do.
I really, really want to see my Rat piloted by its uber-iconic jockey, but I am willing to play the long game, especially as supply continues to rise, and purchased prices slowly trend my way. If things start to turn the other way and supply starts to dry up, I might have to do something desperate...
Supposedly Emily said on the livestream that she had not added in the numbers this week for the Non-Pulse areas of the world, so that will add *some* to the tally tonight, but I'm still thinking Flint is a longshot.
Yeah, if I weren't backing it, I too would be hoping it didn't unlock everything to teach them a lesson (that they would most certainly not learn). But I love Flint, and I want that stupid figure. The toboggan-head might also work if I decide to use an extra Legacy Diver body to add Flint to the frog squad (hey, it makes more sense than half the stuff in the Joe universe). And I want the body to get pre-tooled so we have a shot at other snow-joes with coats down the road... Hawk, stabbed-in-the-heart Duke, arctic Stalker, arctic SE, issue #2 Breaker, just about anyone that isn't on a larger buck.
Yeah, if I weren't backing it, I too would be hoping it didn't unlock everything to teach them a lesson (that they would most certainly not learn). But I love Flint, and I want that stupid figure. The toboggan-head might also work if I decide to use an extra Legacy Diver body to add Flint to the frog squad (hey, it makes more sense than half the stuff in the Joe universe). And I want the body to get pre-tooled so we have a shot at other snow-joes with coats down the road... Hawk, stabbed-in-the-heart Duke, arctic Stalker, arctic SE, issue #2 Breaker, just about anyone that isn't on a larger buck.
Apparently what they added was significant. They've got tier 2 unlocked now and are less than 1k from tier 3. If momentum holds, looks like it might just get there. How about that...
Edit: Fully funded through all 3 tiers. Color me surprised, but pleased overall. It means Joe Haslabs will keep coming. Hopefully the next one will be a bit more impressive and universally sought after.
Edit: Fully funded through all 3 tiers. Color me surprised, but pleased overall. It means Joe Haslabs will keep coming. Hopefully the next one will be a bit more impressive and universally sought after.
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