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Via Hong Kong based online retailer Action Robo, we have great (or bad) news for all of you. We have our first report of the Possible Price And Release Date Of Masterpiece MP-44 Convoy (Optimus Prime) Version 3.

Action Robo on Facebook, has shared a solicitation for the new mold of the upcoming MP-44 Convoy/Optimus Prime, indicating that it is scheduled for release on August, 2019. Two items per case.

Now… the price. The listing indicates not-so-economic 50000 Yen, which means this figure will be around $440. If this comes to be confirmed, this will be the most expensive Masterpiece release to date. As usual, take this with a grain of salt until we get more listings or information.
 

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Man, it's sad that I could buy Magic Square AND Transform Element and still have a couple hundred leftover compared to this hot mess. It's U-G-L-Y. I wouldn't pay $44 for the (higher quality/fixed) KO, much less $440 for the real thing. Takara is out of their damn mind.
 

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If I'm not paying $500 for the 5-foot-long SW Vintage Collection Sail Barge, I wouldn't pay that much for a high-pockets prime that will be improved, KO'd ad infinitum, and replaced by a substantially better MP-50 in two years. I've never been a big fan of MP-10, but he's not so bad that I need a $440 replacement.

WTF Mattel indeed.
 

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In other news, my Tracks arrived from Toydojo’s Black Friday sale and I’m confused by all the hate. I never liked Tracks as a kid which is why I only bought this mold on deep discount, but I am totally digging him. He tabs together rock solid in all 3 modes, has the best paint I’ve seen from Takara and the transformation is the perfect balance of complexity, fun and time required. The only thing I do not like is his lifeless face and the gaps left in the forearms due to his funky hand transformation.
 

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I think the biggest gripes were the "cheap" feel b/c he has no diecast, and the plastic tires - both legit gripes, but neither a big deal. Even the KO has rubber/silicone tires. I have the official I bought on black friday two years ago, and I agree he's fine, but nothing about him is exciting. He was an odd choice at the time when they hadn't done any S2 bots before yet we still had plenty of S1 left (and still do).
 

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And so it's confirmed as is the end of my days buying Takara. I just can't justify more than $200 for any figure except my 2ft tall Omega Supreme which cost $210 and has a goddamn motorized tank with functioning rubber treads. Remember when $200 for FT Phoenix made you question if it was justifiable? Sheesh...

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"Buh-but he comes with all this stuff, guys!"

That Crowder meme is BS. It's suggesting that his normal arguments are just as ridiculous. They are far from it. Unless of course the meme is supposed to represent Hasbro.

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PROS
- I really like the head, so props for that
- The Starscream parts are comical and unnecessary, but it's cool that they bothered
- The truck does look quite toony, so if that was the intent (duh), then they did a good job

CONS
- The bot is a panel-y hot mess. Planel lines and hinges everywhere. It looks like a 3P product from five years ago.
- The short/squatty abdomen, square grill that should be much taller, and fake windows are unforgivable.
- The proportions seem to have been taken off screen shots from a human/minibot perspective, making his entire upper body much shorter than it should be. This is my biggest complaint and the #1 reason I was skipping this, even before we learned the absurd price. Of course, I skipped Megatron v2 for the exact same reason. When did TFs all get high-pockets?!

Maybe one of the KO companies can improve the proportions when they put this out, much like they did with MP-10.

I would take a MP-10-scaled MP-01 over this ANY day of the week. I have my MP-01 and Faith Leader... but I would need something in between.
 

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The proportions seem to have been taken off screen shots from a human/minibot perspective, making his entire upper body much shorter than it should be. This is my biggest complaint and the #1 reason I was skipping this, even before we learned the absurd price. Of course, I skipped Megatron v2 for the exact same reason. When did TFs all get high-pockets?!
Is that an asian thing maybe? Is anime infested with high trouser characters? I know that they love posing figures with a ridiculous amount of crotch thrust. Maybe they love long legs and short torsos...?
 

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Yeah, Megs has longer legs, but shoulder to crotch they are within a 1/4” of each other. The long legs and huge head really blow it out of proportion visually along with the fact Prime’s crotch drops lower between his legs. Obviously Prime’s proportions are more desirable, but I think you’d be surprised just how close they are physically in hand.

I mean the dude was always all legs thanks to being a sideways gun. I do agree with you guys that a frickin semi should NOT be all legs.

 

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Again, you're posting pics that prove my point :)

That still from the cartoon is drawn from foot-level such that you're looking up at him and see the underside of his helmet, chest, waist, etc,, thereby making the legs seem larger and the torso shortened because of the perspective, NOT because that's his actual proportions. It's a wonder that the designers didn't make his feet wider than his head too.

If the drawing someone uses for reference designing a figure is from a ground-level perspective, OF COURSE the product is going to have long legs and a stumpy torso, but that doesn't make it correct. It just means they're a shitty designer that doesn't understand perspective.

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I'm just glad we don't have iconic stills that have a lot of horizontal foreshortening... otherwise, these same hack designers would give us figures with one huge arm and one tiny t-rex arm, BECAUSE CARTOON :rolleyes:

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I bought him back in July and completely forgot about it until TFD sent me a shipping notice a few weeks ago. The car mode blows Downbeat away... makes DB look like a fisher price toy. The bot mode looks good too, and it really comes down to aesthetics. I like the wider chest on Hova, but I like the head sculpt better on Downbeat. But the car livery is to die for. Hova has skinnier feet than I think he should, but he also has the option of shoulder wheels for people like me who prefer the toy look. Both bots get some things right.

Hova's only major flaw IMO is the shoulder clip in bot mode. It's an awkward design, and I always feel like it's going to disconnect during anything but light handling. And I'm not even sure I'm doing it right, as I halfway suspect that there is a better way and I'm just not getting it from the instructions. I need to do more research to see if I missed something.

Overall, he's not perfect, but he's not Omnigonix-level of half-baked either. This is definitely a more complete first effort by T&R, but you're not going to mistake it for a FT or XTB bot either. Worst case, I'll put him on the alt-mode shelf where he'll look badass.
 

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The rims are what kill the car mode for me like those ghetto ‘Dubs’ toy cars, otherwise I’d consider getting him for altmode alone. The chest on the robot is even more ridiculous than I first thought as Bobby’s giant thumb completely vanished underneath it. My collection demands Downbeat since he is yet another 3rd party bridge (like toon Gundog) between my G1 and Gtoon MPs.


I finally pulled the trigger on JinBao OS Gravity Builder and have set B on the way. I’ll buy A as soon as C is in stock stateside to save on shipping.
 

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Yeah, I don't want simplified toony, but I don't want gritty overly detailed either unless it fits the source material. I guess that's why Constructor hit all the right buttons for me. I don't mind the detail per se on GB necessarily, but the new interpretations are where they lose me. And hopefully jinbao fixes those arms, as they could hang past his knees in that pic. Or maybe the thighs are really short. Something is off to me eyes proportion-wise, but jinbao has a way of improving that kind of thing, so you're probably safe.

I'm getting the Zeta aerialbots and XTB stunticons, but I'm really waiting on G1 MP Technobots. Computron was always my favorite combiner, as he was the one who didn't get dumber in his combined form. He wasn't just a robotic version of Hulk like most of the others. And he had bots with futuristic vehicles not pretending to look like earth transportation, or at least not 1984 earth transportation. Maybe that's what we were supposed to be driving in 2005...
 

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Pretty sure there is a thigh extension kit out there for GB, but no word which direction JinBao went. Most are saying the upgrade kit is not included (and obviously the old one will not fit). I love it and can't wait to smoother it in that panel lining goop I discovered from Tamiya. So much detail.