G.I. Joe Classified Series (1:12)

[nacho]

I want to like Helix, but they immediately went and made her the ultimate psychic ninja warrior woman who cannot be defeated, but she's also a victim of massive childhood trauma, so we're supposed to feel sorry for her too. So angry, so virtuous. It's just too much. If she had just been covert ops, commando, or ordinance specialist, I'd like her a lot. But making her a female Snake-Eyes Jedi... when the comics already have a literal female snake-eyes jedi... I just can't get excited about her.

 

[ThunderDan19]

Wow, I didn't know or didn't recall that she had all that going on. Was there a comic or something like that? I just took her to be kind of a forward operating, clandestine operative that could be useful to gain intelligence in anticipation of an operation - kind of a Black Widow type.

I've said for quite a while that GI Joe could benefit by having more gurlz in the mix, as long as they have a decent reason to exist. I didn't like the Glenda, mainly because I didn't think she had the familiarity or draw to boost the campaign, and I didn't think the repro of the retro style worked well with the previous theming of the DF, WB and Ripcord. I did like what they did to elevate Cover Girl, even though I ended up changing her head to a better one, and I'd love to see a cool, modernized take on Jinx and Bombstrike. There are probably others, but those two come to mind as potentials that haven't been done for JoeClass yet.

That said, if they didn't flood the market with thousands of units and multiple versions of every female they released like they have so far, I think they'd do at least well enough to justify their existence. And we probably wouldn't end up with versions of them going the way of the LJs and Baronesses warming pegs at every Walmart and the SE movie Scarletts, Baronesses and Akikos clogging up online sites at discounted prices.

 

[nacho]

Yeah, Helix was a mainstay in the IDW comics' first volume, and she's since had a mini series or two and then made her way into the classic Hama series. She literally has f#$%ing super-powers. Without being a cyborg or having a computer in her head, she can "see" the probability of what her opponent's next move will be so she can pre-counter it. And of course, she's also trained in ALL of the fighting styles, is angry and anti-social, and has the weapons proficiency of everyone. She is supernatural girl-Snake-Eyes-wolverine-JohnWick on steroids. I hate her backstory SOOOOOO much.

Her design is cool, and I don't mind her usage on the forward-operating squad. But she's just over-the-top best at everything bar none shut-up and don't ask girlpower.

Agent Helix (Character) - Comic Vine (gamespot.com)

History and Origin of GI Joe's AGENT HELIX! - YouTube

 

[ThunderDan19]

Lol, I'm not even going to open those. I think I'm better off ignorant on her supposed backstory. All the whacky ninja stuff later in the comics left me liking everything comics/Joe a little bit less, so I think I'll Just Say No. No need to ruin my limited by pleasant version of her.

 

[nacho]

I would never use her that way. The version in my head is far more tame and realistic. In my noggin, all that talk of her abilities is just to scare the opposition, make her sound larger than life. In my world, she's just a talented spy/infiltrator type, but that's the extent.

 

[ThunderDan19]

I like it! Officially stolen!. She's a shadowy forward operative that has real skills in the undercover/intelligence gathering arts as well as solid combat skills. She is rumored within the rank and file of Cobra to have pre-cognitive abilities due to her ability to often predict enemy actions/reactions (due to solid intel gathering and use) and escape unseen, even when they thought they had her dead to rights. Bingo!

Now where's that JoeClass figure???

 

[nacho]

For those wondering how the DF was doing vs the HISS, a fellow nerd is tracking it for us. DF is lagging the HISS overall but if it gets anywhere near the final push of the HISS or Skystriker, it'll easily clear the third stretch goal.

The steady growth in the middle of the campaign is strikingly near-linear. But it looks like the other two had noticeable upticks starting with about five days to go. Should be no problem to get that third unlock.

Operation Dragonfly HasLab Tracking by Brian Brink [UPDATED!] - Geek. Dad. Life. (geekdadlife.com)

 

[ThunderDan19]

In case you want to get Snow Serpents w/o the extra cost and shipping, they are back up at Amazon... for now.

 

[Videoviper]

The wolf head is for everyone that didn’t like Timber.

 

[nacho]

So, are we still thinking Firefly and Shadow Tracker, and the Steel Corps for tomorrow? I haven't heard any solid rumblings to the contrary, so that's going to be my assumption going in.

DF is over 14k... so I think it's well on track to hit the 19k goal if the pattern holds over the next three weeks.

 

[ThunderDan19]

I think that's the prevailing expectation. There's the possibility of a (worst kept) surprise Crimson Viper as well, since he was leaked with Grunt. Though he could just as easily be coming later. I'd say there is always the chance of a well kept surprise since that has been pulled off a couple times this month already.

I'm kinda hoping nothing else drops, as I already have a lot of toy cash committed to these past few reveals. But there are a couple of remaining gaps to be filled in the 70s (ST & FF?), and plenty in the 80s (SC set & CV?) and 90s to potentially give us at least one more good one for the finale to deal another strike to the ol' wallet.

 

[nacho]

Not sure if this is confirmed, but I've heard something about the SDCC exclusive being "crimson" Crimson Twins and crimson Baroness. If that's true, I'll be saving money there, as those are hard passes. I'll be skipping the crimson viper whenever it shows up, and I wish I hadn't bothered with the crimson BATs.

I like basic CGs just fine as the elite guard and the legal/political arm of Cobra, but I don't need a whole crimson sub-army with every flavor of crimson trooper. What makes a Crimson BAT different than a regular BAT except his jammies? Same with the basic Viper, what gives?

And why would Baroness join the twins' little elite unit? Crimson Baroness makes no sense from a narrative perspective. In the Cobra Civil War, the twins and CGs were on Serpentor's side, while Baroness was with CC (Fred) and eventually IG Destro. She never joined up with the twins in a meaningful way in the cartoon either. Nothing but a bad repaint excuse.

Actually, I really hope that's the SDCC offering so I can feel good about skipping it and the drama that getting one would entail.

 

[ThunderDan19]

I've heard that rumor too. Those are easy passes for me too. I know I've seen some Crimson Baroness fan art at some point, but like you said, no real basis in canon and just an excuse to reuse the molds to make additional (SDCC premium) cash with them. And a second set of CTs is beyond redundant to me. I almost didn't buy the first ones due to their campiness. I think H'bro would have done better to release them in suits, even the baroness (maybe with a disguise or something like that), than just the simple crimson treatment. People would buy them for use in all kinds of customs.

Edit: From a quick image search for the Crimson Viper render, it looks like they did a crimson set before at an SDCC, so it's certainly non unprecedented.

I'm a sucker for Vipers though, so I'll probably get the Crimson one if it's not too difficult. I never intended to get anything PP, but the Viper hooked me then too (had one as a kid). I'll generate some backstory how the CGs are the most elite and decorated troopers drawn from the normal Cobra Trooper and Officer corps' (not the implausible surgically twinned blonde guys from the comic book) and the Crimson Vipers similarly come out of the Viper corps, or something like that. I can't really explain it, but, at least from the render, I actually prefer the CV over the Viper Officer they released.

 

[nacho]

To be fair, the implausible surgically twinned blonde guys were always referred to as "the Fred series" of CGs, implying that there were plenty of other non-Fred CGs, or maybe 50 other series/groups of surgically twinned dudes with different names. It's just that the Freds were the only ones we ever saw without a helmet.

I never thought ALL CGs looked like Fred... they're not storm troopers from the clone wars! But when you place guys high-up in companies or in government, you have to keep them there, so having similar-looking replacements at the ready seems reasonable for a terrorist group with teleporation and weather control devices.

We know Candy's dad, Professor Appel, was a CG that didn't look like anyone else (as far as we know).

 

[ThunderDan19]

You are totally right that there was a lot more nuance to the story than I gave it credit for. I just never incorporated any of that into my own Joeverse because my troops were always battling and never really blending into corporations or setting up their own little towns and such.

It makes for interesting stories, but, like so many other themes and characters from the comics and cartoon, seemed like a waste of time for me. All l I wanted was to play war with my Joes and wanted to see them (and not some other made up characters that didn't even have action figures) do that on the screen and page as well.

Anyway, I ran across this during the above mentioned image searching too:

I'm pretty sure these are just fan edits, but dang if they don't look pretty cool!

 

[nacho]

Yeah, those are certainly fan edits. GS never had a stache... but I kinda like the Timothy Olyphant-as-Flash vibe going on there. Plus, this Flash doesn't come with his traditional gear that we know is getting tooled to come with Glenda.

Mostly, hasbro has NEVER used the terms "O13" or "OG13" on any printed materials. I might have heard Lenny or whatsherface say it out loud once, but that's not official hasbro lexicon, just fan shorthand for the class of '82.

 

[nacho]

"Hasbro today in a round table Q&A confirmed that the 3rd stretch goal for the Dragonfly Haslab campaign would NOT BE a G.I. Joe Classified Airborne figure and that he would be released in the line some other way down the road."

 

[ThunderDan19]

Lol, yeah. I saw that. I have to think that announcing what you are not including is unlikely to favorably impact sales, but what do I know. Glenda already took Airborne's seat in my opinion. I guess we'll see if the final reveal is something better or not, assuming we get there.

Looks like we are getting a (Pulse Exclusive) HISS strike team troop builder though: Hasbro G.I. Joe Classified Series Pulse Exclusive 788 Fire Team Troop Builder 3-Pack Coming!

 

[nacho]

I saw that too. I don't know what that actually means. They can't use the HISS driver mold for a retail figure this quickly, as it would really piss off the backers. So does that mean just three blueshirts? What does a tank strike team consist of? Where will they go, as the HISS already comes with a driver, a gunner, and a tactician? Does the HISS carry more figures than I realized? I'm going to need more info before I know if this is worth getting excited about.

My three arctic BATs charged @pulse today, so they should be along probably next week.

 

[ThunderDan19]

Looks like troopers, maybe with a little different paint or something? It doesn't really look like there's space for them inside, unless they alter the configuration somehow. Maybe they'll add foot pegs on the back step and maybe handles so they can ride there like the original one?

That was a quick turnaround on the ABATs!!!

 

[Videoviper]

I heard something about a desert version? So maybe they will crew that retail version.

 

[nacho]

A retail HISS? Wonder what that would cost. Even if they held back all the extra goodies, ditched the electronics, and no figures, it'll still cost $175. How much demand would there be for a non-classic repaint? I'd be more inclined to buy a stripped down black tank than some weird color repaint.

Looks like troopers, maybe with a little different paint or something? It doesn't really look like there's space for them inside, unless they alter the configuration somehow. Maybe they'll add foot pegs on the back step and maybe handles so they can ride there like the original one?

I saw the pics with the announcement, but I didn't think those were the actual figures. While I love blueshirts, I've already bought my limit. Would need these to be special to warrant buying more.

 

[Videoviper]

Some additional clarifications from Emily regarding info in today's roundtable:

Hi all --

Hope you're having a great day! Just wanted to jump in with a couple of clarifications:

- We made enough quantities of Mindbender and Serpentor to fulfill all existing pre-orders, so if you currently have one of those items on pre-order (I think only Mindbender is currently outstanding?) then you will be getting product.

- We do not open HasLabs up for other retailers to purchase at the end of the campaign - only available at Hasbro Pulse.

- The 788 Fire Team 3-pack is not the same figures from the HISS HasLab - the only way to get those figures was from the HISS campaign.

- Airborne will be a mainline release, not a Pulse exclusive.

I think that's all that I've seen for now, but let me know if any other questions come up and happy to answer them if I'm able!

Thanks for reading!
Emily

 

[ThunderDan19]

Leaked:

G.I. Joe Classified Firefly v2, Crimson Viper And Nunchuk Official Images

G.I. Joe Classified Firefly v2, Crimson Viper And Nunchuk Official Images

toynewsi.com

I will PO the Viper. I have no interest in Nunchuck and I only want FF's mini drone and leg holsters, which I should be able to get on the secondary market.

 

[nacho]

I'll get the new Firefly, but I have no use for Nunchuck or red vipers. Heck, Nunchuck doesn't even have any useful parts that might get me to pick one up on clearance. Totally worthless... and I can normally find a use for almost any figure.

I think that new FF looks like it stepped straight out of '84 (minus the vintage figure's sad eyes). Makes the EOD FF look even more bizarre. This is a perfect update IMO... classic looks, mix of new and old gear.

 

[ThunderDan19]

If I hadn't already modded my FF to fix the EOD stuff, I'd get this one, but I really like the look of my fixed one I have and can just give him a little more punch by adding the remaining gear this one has over that one.

I really do like the new one, except for the sub gun. His original green one was iconic and actually looked more modern than this one. Had they provided a decent version of that, I would have had to have it as well. As it is, while not truly a replacement for the original, the one that came with CI FF is more modern looking than the spindly thing they gave the new one.

Ultimately, what I do for FF will probably come down to the cost of the gear I want vs. the cost to just pick up the fig on the secondary market. I could always give my daughter a version from the leftovers like I have been with other figures I've cannibalized. Plus, I think she will be inheriting some other figures as I run out of space as new ones come in September.

 

[nacho]

Yeah, it appears they gave him Beachhead's vintage gun for some reason rather than his normal weapon, but there are several third party options for the classic, so no biggie.

I like my mods on the CI Firefly, but the torso on the new one is better than anything I could have cobbled together.

 

[ThunderDan19]

So got my CV pre-ordered. I'm not proud because there is no need, but he's a hybrid of two of my favorite Cobra units so I was double hooked by the nostalgia and by the look of the combo.

Speaking of stuff I definitely don't need, I've seen some talk about the potential, with the ending of the Pulse exclusive offerings, for a Serpentor and a Mindbender redeco/mass release in the future. I wonder if there is any version of either of those that I would just have to get. They would have to be so different from the previous releases that I simply cannot imagine. But never say never I guess...

 

[nacho]

I assume Mindbender would be the movie purple winter overcoat, much like the club did in 4" a few years ago. Or it could be a VvV lab coat version. I would probably buy the winter coat version, but I would skip the lab coat version only to turn around and buy three of them for generic scientists. This is the way

Serpentor... he doesn't really have any other looks, no? Maybe a shirtless "I just came out of a tube" version from comic issue #50, with just pants, cape, and snake head? Or maybe it's just the same figure as before minus the air chariot. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Right now, I don't see anyone clamoring for redecos on those two though. Probably best to let them be for a while.

 

[ThunderDan19]

Agreed. I certainly can't think of a place for any previously released version of either of them in my collection. It would have to be something new and different for each of them for me to bite.

I had them both back in the day, but only got marginal use out of Serpy and almost none with Mindbender (though I remember him getting punched a lot). I'm pretty sure I only ever got MB because it was my biggest score year and the extended family just bought me anything GI Joe for Xmas/Bday and he was on the shelf.

Wow, I just verified on YoJoe that, between receiving them directly or in trades, I had every carded (US) figure in that wave at some point and all but the Firebat pilot of the vehicle drivers. I even had both versions of Sgt. Slaughter .

Man, 1986 was the best year evar!!!

Then Joe jumped the shark...

Did you hear from the round table run down that they want to try to "somehow" get a wider release on the 6" retro line? I'll believe it when I see it. I think it's as dead as O-ring.

 

[nacho]

Wider release of the existing figures or "new" retro releases? I don't need the WM figures again... WTF Mattel!

I always considered '85 the peak of my Joe love, although I had most of the '86 figures, and quite a few from '87 and even '88. I had every figure from '85 after getting Lampreys, Keel Haul, and Heavy Metal in a mail-away driver pack. (I don't count Listen-n-Fun Tripwire, as it wasn't a normal release and I'd never even heard of it until I was an adult).

My disdain for the '86 replacement crew is well-documented, despite owning almost all of them. I didn't even like the new logo. I'm a flat-logo, peach file card snob. When I was collecting MOC joes, I wouldn't buy the '85 figures that were still in circulation on the '86 cardbacks because I didn't want them to have the 3D logo or the grey file cards. I needed pure '85 MOC cards, as the others felt like "2nd Prints" (you comic nerds know what I'm talking about).

I did like the '86 vehicles though. The Conquest was enough different from the Skystriker that my collection was big enough for both (although it pissed me off that the cartoon suddenly acted like the SS never existed). The Devilfish was a cool little run-around, far more nimble than a WHALE. While I bought the drone off a buddy, I never had a Nightraven or Terrordrome, but I corrected that as an adult (sort of). A decade or so back, I acquired both (along with a base FLAGG) and sought out parts lots to complete them, but I have yet to actually assemble them... because time/space. Thunder Machine was also a great '86 vehicle that got a lot of use in The Bedroom Wars.

Cobra vehicles were still badass in '86, while Joe got.... the HAVOC? What an abomination that thing was. Prone drivers in a glass case with a gunner in a lawnchair on the top... And speaking of '86, I'm cleaning out my work office in preparation for a move to a different building down the street, and I just found the Dreadnok ground assault jeep I bought over a decade ago. It never made it home to the collection!

My favorite vehicles are still the old classics though. VAMP, Dragonfly, WHALE, AWE, the various cannons and pull-behinds... Back when all the ground equipment was OD, as it should be

 

[ThunderDan19]

You gotta get your vote in for which (OD) vehicles Hasbro should offer for Joe CS. That was another of the items from the round table apparently.

 

[nacho]

I thought they were just soliciting input on "new" vehicles. They still fail to understand that if you were collecting Joes in the 80s, then you're currently somewhere in your mid/late 40s, and the whole reason for collecting this shit is a steaming scoop of nostalgia that comes with each and every item. We can debate how much nostalgia vs modern realism is the correct amount, but making any real attempt to extricate all nostalgia from the toys is the worst thing they could do.

Want to kill the line? Make stuff that doesn't resonate with anyone's inner 10yo and charge modern prices for it, and then see how long you still have a jorb. Sure, you might get lightning in a bottle with some design that's so cool that everyone wants one, but most likely the response will be, "Meh, I like the one from '85 better. Wonder why they didn't make that one. Definitely not paying that price. Maybe if it goes on clearance."

 

[ThunderDan19]

I copied the text of what I've seen, at the bottom - notes added in bold.

You are correct. It looks like they do want to make new stuff. I misread it and took it as more of a poll on which vehicles were most in demand for creation in the larger scale. I see where there would be issues trying to size up a lot of the stuff we grew up with, but I agree that they should adapt only the small and medium vehicles, sticking as close to the originals (with minor modernizations where needed) as possible. Then they could do a couple of the smaller large vehicle as Haslabs for the truly hardcore.

Please no under-scaled wannabe replications of larger things. The last thing we need is this for the CS:


You are so right on the nostalgia element too. That's exactly why I have a lot less interest in the Vala stuff. As cool as some of their stuff is, I like my Joes and Cobras modernized, but absolutely recognizable as the characters I loved as a kid.

Copied Roundtable Text

"Yo Joe June 2023 Hasbro’s G.I. JOE Brand Team Roundtable Information

We have just got out of round 1 of the Yo Joe June Hasbro’s G.I. JOE Brand Team Roundtable and we have the following to report. Stay tuned for more information as we reformat.

Classified Series Pipeline Reveals

Airborne – will NOT be a part of the HasLab Dragonfly as the last unlock and will be a main line G.I. Joe Classified Action Figure. - disappointing for the HasLab DF, but good news in general that he's on the way.

There will be a second name only figure announced today stay tuned.

H.I.S.S. 788 Fire Team 3-pack Pulse Exclusive

New Preorders confirmed for tomorrow. A Special Guest host for tomorrow’s stream will be present.

SDCC 2023 will have a very important G.I.Joe Panel with new renders.

The G.I. Joe o-ring line is on hold until further notice.

H.I.S.S. Tank HasLab as of right now is still scheduled for a fall shipment.

Hand painted HasLab Dragonfly sample was shown off for the first time and looks almost identical to the renders. Stay tuned for official dio desert images.

G.I. Joe brand team is looking for feedback on creating new never seen vehicles for the Classified line. - in my mind this was "never seen in the Joe CS line," but after the re-read it seems more like "never seen ever before."

Serpentor and Dr. Mindbender are no longer available for reproduction. G.I. Joe Team would like to hear feedback on the repaints-redesigns of these two figures the fans would like to see in the future.

The G.I. Joe brand team is currently working on the 2025 line up of G.I. Joe Classified products – world building and how they are going to expand the line even further.

The G.I. Joe Brand team really likes the Retro Carded G.I. Joe Classified figures. Looking for a way to make that available to a wider audience if possible in the future. - How about a wide retro figure for figure release starting with the OG13 (maybe over a couple waves) and just working their way up through the waves from back in the day?

Thanks to Hasbro and the G.I. Joe team and every one involved at Hasbro for the invite!"

 

[nacho]

Did we ever get that other "name only" reveal that day to go with Airborne? If so, I didn't catch it.

Just like a lot of ARAH stuff was based on real world prototypes, maybe they're wanting to adapt some vehicles that have been invented IRL since the prime of ARAH. But the military has gotten scant little new equipment shy of Blackhawks, Abrams, F-22/F-35, and some armored troop carriers. I don't think there are many modern small/medium vehicles that would work for retail release, but then again, maybe I'm just not up on what nifty prototypes may have been created and never taken to production in the last 40 years.

I think they'd do well with some of the smaller non-vehicle sets like the bivouac, outpost defender, checkpoint alpha, etc. GridIron is trying to fill that void at some insane prices, but dio pieces are certainly small enough for retail.

Also, certainly there are some modern analogs to classic vehicles... you know there is some kind of towable missile system, some kind of big dual cannon, snowmobiles, hang-gliders, one-man subs, one-man VTOL craft, etc. They could make the designs "all new" while giving them classic names and decos that are reminiscent of a classic counterpart.

Except the VAMP. It pisses the hell out of me everytime they make some generic hummer-wannabe and call it a VAMP. That thing is iconic and should not be touched.

 

[ThunderDan19]

I don't think we got any other "name only" reveal that I know of. The big guest host and reveal was the Xformers crossover, which is fine, but seems a bit like salt in the wound for O-ring enthusiasts.

I really don't think there would be much new that they could develop from full sized military hardware at that scale, at least not for wide distribution (maybe for a HasLab). Anything larger than a Humvee would be mighty expensive I'm afraid. The line offers a bunch of small vehicles from back in the day that already fit the bill. Modernized (but still fully recognizable) Devilfish, Polar Battle Bear, FANG, ASP, CLAW, Sky Hawk, Ferret and AWE Striker all come to mind as low hanging fruit.

I think the vehicle/set theme should be to have equal opposites where in a given series they release the enemy's response to each. There might be opportunity there to offer new foils to some of the equipment that lacked those in the original run.

I like your set pieces idea for this scale too - crew served/stationary weapons, bivouacs, checkpoint kind of things. Heck, even battlefield environmental stuff would be worth considering - figure stands with battle scars, general building debris, rappelling gear, etc.

As for new vehicles, I think they would have to be limited to Jeep sized and smaller. Perhaps a version of a special ops UTV since that's real world, but that's only marginally smaller than an AWE Striker. Joe already has the RAM for a cycle. Joe had jet packs before they were a practical thing in the real world. I can't think of anything in a reasonable size beyond those that have become a regular implement since. Joe was ahead of the curve.

As for the VAMP and larger, I think those would likely have to release individually with a particular wave (with driver included) and the more substantial ones as HasLabs. I agree that anything they do with the VAMP must at least start with the iconic (OD) frame as the base. Worst case, if you don't like the add-ons, those could be removed and set aside.

 

[nacho]

I keep thinking there must be some wacky prototypes of stuff developed in the last 40 years that never actually got produced that Joe could adapt. VAMP, Wolverine, MOBAT.... all based on real-world prototypes that never saw wide deployment.

I agree that current military gear would yield nothing exciting or worthwhile, but in the archives of ideas never made could be some nifty things that weren't practical or ready for primetime that would fit with a cutting edge, borderline sci-fi, fictional military.

Then again, like you say, Joe's history is full of small fun vehicles they could make. We already have gliders and ATVs and snowmobiles and one-man aircraft, etc. Why reinvent the wheel, unless they have the sense that just pandering to the old guys is not their preferred strategy? The emphasis on "new for the sake of new" is what makes me think that someone at Big-H is missing the point.

 

[ThunderDan19]

My post before last was so TL;DR we kinda passed over the part with Hasbro wanting to do more/go wider with the Retro CS line. If H'bro really wanted to make a splash with 6" Retro, they'd go full nostalgia. Wide release it, full replica with the Joe CS body and detail upgrades, no frills or modernization, custom heads but body mold reuse like the originals, upscaled original weapons and as close as possible original card backs. OG13 first, say 4 in a wave 3 times per year for $20/fig and just work their way sequentially through the first few original waves of carded figures.

They could re-release the smaller vehicles/sets in nostalgia packaging - stickers, blueprints, the whole nine and maybe do the MOBAT as a Haslab. That would be like crack for all the completists and nostalgia buffs from our generation. I'd have to bite and probably collect them MOC/MIB. I'd put them away to sell down the road. That might even sooth over the O-ring folks a little too. Nothing like a good nostalgia buzz to generate some forgiveness.

 

[nacho]

You'd get no argument from me!

WM shipped my two retro CGs, saying that they are going to arrive tomorrow (as if!). Two of my retro SEs shipped earlier in the week and actually should arrive tomorrow. My other retro SEs were officially delayed until mid-Aug. Such an odd way WM operates!

 

[ThunderDan19]

Yeah, I cancelled mine a little while back. I never had a place for SE and I'd have to see the CG in person to make the final call on that one. I'm afraid, based on previous experience, that they would be unreturnable in the condition they arrive. I know it probably saves them a bundle, but sending carded figs in bags just pisses the buyers off.

Hopefully they'll show up on pegs before too long, as long as said pegs aren't still clogged with LJs, Baronesses and Gung Hos everywhere. I could see the CG being an impulse buy, but only if it looks awesome in person.