How much are you guys pay for a Hind kit ?

[Pickelhaube]

OK guys the Hind is my favorite helo and as far as I am concerned the holy grail when it come to helos.

How much would you guys be willing to pay ?

My guess would be about $550 for a FULL new kit.

This is a big bird with big parts.

 

[K-Tiger]

Depends on the extras. IR exhaust suppressors and a GSh-30K option would help, but multiple parts options would be almost required to get me to pay that much.

 

[G.I.*EDDIE]

The first option...and hardly that...I don't need a hind all that badly...pretty bird yes, but it's no Hog...that's what I really wanna see

 

[Fled74]

I'd love a Hind, but resin kits are a bit too pricey for me.

On a related note, whatever happened to Bar and his vacformed Comanche?

 

[nacho]

I'm with eddie. I'd like a hind, but if I had $500+ burning a hole in my pocket, it would probably go elsewhere first. $200, yeah I'd get on board. $500, I'd pass.

 

[Dr Syn]

I'd pay a decent price and offer you all as slaves to Yog-sothoth for a Hind.

 

[Giga Bread]

Depends on which Hind we're talking about. Early model or later model? To be honest, I've had my fill of Apaches, Cobras, and Blackhawks. I want something for the enemy.

 

[YT1]

I'd be interested, but it would need to be on the lower end of the prices being presented.

 

[Giga Bread]

If we're talking 1:18 scale, $550 is damn cheap. If you find a model online that's half the size, you're basically in the $350 range (I actually was looking into it about a year ago).

 

[YT1]

I believe the question was what would you pay, not what is it worth?

 

[nacho]

YT's on it. It's not a question of quality or craftsmanship or fair market value. It's a question of "Would I spend $500 on a 1:18 toy of any kind?"... and I think that answer is no, regardless of which aircraft, quality, detail, etc.

Now you may be right that there is a market for it "out there". I don't know. But I think my limit for any bird would be in the ~$250 range, i.e. somewhere in the spotcat neighborhood. But that's just me. Maybe I'm just not running in the big-spender circles.

 

[K-Tiger]

Can you imagine the deafening silence that would proceed after dropping your freshly completed, 500 dollar Hind model kit?

Drop your Bbi OH-58D? "Oh, shit." *pick it up and put the parts back on*

Drop your resin Hind?

 

[Giga Bread]

YT's on it. It's not a question of quality or craftsmanship or fair market value. It's a question of "Would I spend $500 on a 1:18 toy of any kind?"... and I think that answer is no, regardless of which aircraft, quality, detail, etc.

Now you may be right that there is a market for it "out there". I don't know. But I think my limit for any bird would be in the ~$250 range, i.e. somewhere in the spotcat neighborhood. But that's just me. Maybe I'm just not running in the big-spender circles.

No need for everyone to get dickish. I'm not calling anyone cheap. I just provided a comparison based on what is currently attainable at half the size.

 

[YT1]

Can you imagine the deafening silence that would proceed after dropping your freshly completed, 500 dollar Hind model kit?

Drop your Bbi OH-58D? "Oh, shit." *pick it up and put the parts back on*

Drop your resin Hind?

Ha Ha I was just thinking the same thing! Talk about a shitload of suck.

 

[nacho]

No need for everyone to get dickish. I'm not calling anyone cheap. I just provided a comparison based on what is currently attainable at half the size.

I wasn't being dickish. There was no tone or sarcasm, just stating that there very well might be big spenders out there willing to shell out that kind of dough for a 1:18th bird, but that I was merely not among them. Don't get your panties in a twist.

 

[G.I.*EDDIE]

I'd love a Hind, but resin kits are a bit too pricey for me.

On a related note, whatever happened to Bar and his vacformed Comanche?

What ever happened to Bar period?...that guy was pretty cool and doing some really stuff...

 

[Monkeywrench]

I know he had some personal issues that he was dealing with....

 

[Pickelhaube]

Unfortunately the Hind would be a huge project.

Huge = $$$$$

The resin alone would be about $100 a unit. ( that is just a guess )

The RTV for the Horten project was about $1,400.

My guess the RTV for the Hind would be about twice that. Possibly the 2 biggest moulds that I have made to date. ( for both halves of the fusalage )Then those long rotor blades.

It would be sweet if some of the big guys ( BBI ) would make the Hind but I am pretty sure that will not happen.

It is just to big and the average collector would want the Pavies and Hueys.

 

[nacho]

There might well be a market for it, but the toy community is probably not the right target. I'd go out on a limb and say most toy collectors would balk at the "Huge = $$$$$".

But you're more in tune with some in the high-end model community that GB mentioned, so they might have a totally different take. They might jump at it. Those of us who have to talk ourselves into paying BBI prices... not so much.

But a mass market version at a lower price point would likely be a popular item around here.

 

[G.I.*EDDIE]

But a mass market version at a lower price point would likely be a popular item around here.

Indeed it would

 

[thelegoguy]

I don't think I could drop anything over about $250 for a 1:18 Hind. Probably not in your range Pickel. Sorry

 

[ThunderDan19]

I love most anything modern, but, like Eddie said, it's not the holy grail (A-10 Warthog), so I couldn't pay more than the going BBI helo rate of $200 for it. I'm sure it would be awesome and I'd love to have it, but I couldn't justify the high cost.

 

[The Ewokhunter]

2-3 years ago I would anal rape a baboon to be able to buy one at any given price. In today's world, I doubt I could bring myself to buy one.

even if BBi made it at a $150 price point, it would take me a month of "fiscal cliff" debating to decide to buy it.

No offense to you Pickle, you make outstanding stuff!

 

[NSA]

Yeah, I'm 'saying' I'd pay between $250-$350, but in reality I don't even know anymore.

It's a lot harder to throw money at plastic toys these days with everything going on.

It would be really sweet though, I'd probably sell off other stuff to pay for it, same goes for an A-10.

 

[Giga Bread]

I think the main reason an A-10 isn't my holy grail is because it's the length of the Hind, but it's width is a little more than it's length.

 

[K-Tiger]

Yeah, I'm 'saying' I'd pay between $250-$350, but in reality I don't even know anymore.

It's a lot harder to throw money at plastic toys these days with everything going on.

It would be really sweet though, I'd probably sell off other stuff to pay for it, same goes for an A-10.

Being rotary wing-fixated, a Hind is perhaps second only to a Ka-50 on the grail standings, but it's not even a ready-to-go "toy". It's gonna be a massive model kit. IF I managed to complete the underetaking, then what? I would certainly be highly unlikely to want to move it about after I got it strung up because there ain't no way in hell for me to display it on a shelf.

Bbi really should just announce they're going forward with production with their Hind, that it's gonna cost 250-275 so we can get the griping, grinding of teeth and screaming while secretly understanding it's the new reality out of the way, and just be done with it already.

 

[Giga Bread]

I wouldn't be surprised that a Hind from BbI would cost $350.00-400.00.

 

[The Ewokhunter]

I wouldn't be surprised that a Hind from BbI would cost $350.00-400.00.

they would be dumb to release a product at that price point.

 

[K-Tiger]

Indeed, it would.

 

[nacho]

While this might be blasphemy to some, I wouldn't mind a nice scaled-down Hind for 1:18th figures. Not Joe-scale per se, but something a bit more manageable from both a display and cost perspective. My need for perfect scale accuracy just isn't that great.

 

[K-Tiger]

I might go one scale down, but I'm not open to Joe scalification. Yay for fake words!

 

[G.I.*EDDIE]

I wouldn't be surprised that a Hind from BbI would cost $350.00-400.00.

Which is exactly why it will never see the light of day...that would be the cost...and no one outside of five die hards would buy...Bbi knows that...

 

[K-Tiger]

That's about the long in short of it. The re-election of Dear Leader means the economy is gonna be shit for at least 4 more years. Bbi is gonna fuck around until they can't release it for less than 500 bucks, and then well they really will only have a handful of takers.

 

[nacho]

If their only recourse is to put out a $500 helo, then I suspect that they will have long given up on 1:18 military and either focused their resources elsewhere or simply vanished from the toy landscape.

 

[K-Tiger]

Bbi is like Hasbro, 1:18 isn't there main thing.

 

[NSA]

We just need some rich as fuck small scale benefactor to pony up the tooling $$$ and gift the Hind-D to the masses.

In other likely to happen news, Unions keep businesses in business!

/sarcasm

 

[Pickelhaube]

As I stated before I would love to buy one off of the shelf. But that will never happen.

I have had an on going thread on Small Scale about the possibility of getting a R/C fiberglass shell and modifying that up to 1/18th scale and making a mod kit for that.

http://www.warbird-photos.com/gpxd/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28782

The fiberglass shell sells for $80 and is under scale at about 1/19th scale.

So by acquiring the fiberglass shell the collector could modifying the shell and I could make the mod kit for about $200-$250 ( guessing )

It does not have a lot of detail but it something I/ we can work with.

Here is a pic of the shell and a couple of pics of the Hind to show it's size.

 

[Pickelhaube]

To tell you the truth I do not know a lot about the Hind but if I had my choice I would want to build the more streamlined version. I do think it is the older but the canopy would be much easier to replicate.

The double bubble would be a lot more work.

I think that I could change the R/C to the streamlined with no problem but the body version I do not know if they are the same between the versions.

But the general consensus will dictate which one I will / would build.

Would you guys prefer the ( older ) streamlined or (newer) double bubble ?

 

[K-Tiger]

I'm probably the only one that would be happy with the greenhouse A model.

 

[YT1]

I'm probably the only one that would be happy with the greenhouse A model.

Wolverines!